China seizes Siberia - a fake on a global scale?

2024 Author: Seth Attwood | [email protected]. Last modified: 2023-12-16 15:55

For many years, information has been circulating around the country that China is about to seize Siberia. The fake is more than 40 years old, it is still from the times of the USSR, but thanks to the timely updating, the fake lives on. Let's figure out where this fake came from and why …

For many years I have been persistently hearing that China is about to seize Siberia. Whenever I cite China as an example for one reason or another, including friendship with Russia, the answer is always the same - "yes, they have already bought and settled all of Siberia from you." Fake is more than 40 (!!!) years old, it is still from the times of the USSR, and against the background of stories about “in half a year already” whole generations have grown up, but thanks to timely updating, the fake lives on.

I read the investigation by Ruslan V. Karmanov, what and how it really is. He took as an example the most widespread propaganda at the time of this writing and brought it to light.

China came out on top in the world in the supply of timber to the USA and the EU

The fake looks something like this:

and is, in fact, "lead-in". I got it around the network around May 2018 (remember the dates, it will come in handy a little later).

This means that this fake drives single false “facts” into the consciousness, relying on and referring to which it will be possible to later throw in something else, on a larger scale.

We are looking for the original of the theses mentioned in the text "China has come out on top in the world in the supply of timber to the USA and the EU."

We find a huge number of scary, over-emotional cries “Well, that's all - it's not the time now, babonies, to talk when tears are choking, we do not reflect, we distribute”, but finally we get to the bottom of the original.

True, there is a little bit different postulated.

Moreover, the American Hardwood Export Council (AHEC) confirmed to the AJOT that the U. S. surpassed Russia as the top temperate hardwood exporter to China.

Stupid situation. Those who repost this stuffing, calling themselves “we are ilita, universal owners of IQs above 160, fluent speakers in several European languages and connoisseurs of 50 shades of Parmesan and brands of other people's watches” - they either massively repost a stupid mistake in translation, or deliberately lie (surprisingly, never such was not, right?). Because the news is that the US has surpassed the Russian Federation in timber exports to China. At the same time, the United States has fewer forests than Russia, the rate of deforestation is higher, and sales to China are higher. It turns out that the news about the fact that the United States is a sawmill country and an economy based on the export of raw materials is about the United States. At the same time, the United States is also dumping - the average price per cubic meter of timber from the United States is lower than that of the Russian Federation.

Separately, about the introductory phrase "China has come out", pushing the reader to the conclusion "That is, under this government, but it was not so before." This is also a lie - the rate of deforestation in the Russian Federation over the past 10 years has decreased significantly, as well as the export of timber - and now it is much lower than the Soviet indicators. The lead to “… well, we understand WHERE China got all the wood, thanks to which it increased its exports,” is thus also false. However, for the sake of her, apparently, the picture is distributed - including paid promotion in expensive VK publics, which take 30-50 thousand rubles for publication and do not do free reposts at all.

The second thesis in the text is “deforestation is prohibited in China”. Where this is taken from - it is not even possible to find it. In China, as elsewhere in the world, the forest cannot be cut down in nature reserves and sanctuaries, but in the forests it is possible, you just need to get permission. As in the rest of the world. The thesis itself about “China lives on imported timber and lumber” is a bit wild, because believers in it must then somehow figure out how a country of 1.4 billion people lives in the scenario “all lumber is imported”. It is believed that this is technically impossible.

But, of course, all these boring logical things cannot outweigh the emotionally sobbing presentation “by the way, and all the sticks in China have been made from Christmas trees near Moscow for 20 years already” and “only the most expensive wood, cedars and pines of Siberia go to Chinese sticks”. Those who wish can shave off coniferous wood sticks and try something to eat with them. I'm sure you will.

The image upgrade “Siberian cedars are being cut down” exploits a fairly common template about “Real Siberia”, where everything is natural and healthy - there is even a whole sect with this name, which is very popular among women of Balzac age. That you need to go into the forest, there to smear yourself with a cedar, eat a cedar, drink a cedar, breathe a cedar, and everything will be cedar. On the covers of such books, usually everything is primordially homespun and a blonde porn model in a kokoshnik, who saw Siberia only from a business jet that took her to work in Dubai. It is quite a standard approach to the buildup of emotions to turn off reason and logic.

The final line in the picture is also indicative - it is a common meme, needed to “signal” how to relate to the entire text. The target audience of such stuffing is stupid and does not like to think very much - but it likes to react quickly (as they teach computer games and social networks). “Don’t reflect, spread” is a liner to just that.

It's a little funny, of course, that the local ultra-democratic “orange” president, who got into a stupid story because of an unsuccessful plastic surgery in Austria, spoke loudest about getting up from his knees in Ukraine.

The Chinese sell us our water from our Baikal

The stuffing is old enough, “The Chinese are buying out Baikal” - I heard this as a schoolboy. The beginning of the 2000s. Now the facelifted fake looks like this:

The actualization in the mass consciousness of this archaic meme began somewhere in the time of the failed “white tape revolution” (this, of course, is just a coincidence). Here is 2014 - "Putin sold the water of Baikal to China", here is 2015 - "Shallow Baikal: the Chinese will pump out water", well, and a frame article with a set of all conceivable fakes for 2011.

The meaning of the actualization of the meme is clear - add a new addition to the old yeast about “China is capturing Siberia” “… because Putin personally ordered this, so there is a sale of the country.”

Let's look for what is actually hidden behind this picture.

The essence of the fake is clear - a bottle with Russian letters, hieroglyphs, and the word “Baikal” should prove that all of Baikal has been sold to the Chinese. No more, no less, just like that.

Spelling on the container - Long Cai Bing Hai - we find exactly one company with that name. This is the LUNTSAIBINKHAY company operating in the territory of the Russian Federation. There are no more such firms, an error is excluded.

This company sells two brands of water on the Chinese market - “LONG CAI BING HAI” with a volume of half a liter and five liters “YISIBEIER”.

Products are positioned for the "upper" segment of the market - well, as it should be for "Northern, foreign, from the country of big white people, which means useful" - as well as imported honey "from which children will be tall", as well as flour from Russian wheat, as and red fish. This is a Hi-End position, something like “Gluten-free French mineral water in pink bottles for successful women” in Moscow gyms. Here is an interview with the owner of a Chinese television, it was done in Beijing, i.e. metropolitan exhibition of "environmentally friendly products".

But the database of legal documents for this company gives us very interesting information about what is happening in general.

So:

All products are exported to the PRC. Raw materials (water) for the production of products are purchased by the company from OJSC “Baikal Pulp and Paper Mill” on the basis of a cold water supply agreement dated Date withdrawn No. UEB-02188. In violation of the requirements of Part No. 4.7, 4.8 Art. 4 of the Technical Regulations of the Customs Union TRNumber withdrawn "Food products in terms of their labeling", adopted by the decision of the Customs Union Commission from Date withdrawn Number withdrawn, on a bottle with a capacity of 0.5 liters. there is no information in Russian about the expiration date of the product, on the label of 0.5 liter bottles. and 5 liters. the name and location of the manufacturer are not indicated. In violation of paragraphs. 1.2, 5.3 SanPiN 2. Date withdrawn -02 “Drinking water. Hygienic requirements for the quality of water packed in containers. Quality control”, approved by the resolution of the Chief State Sanitary Doctor of the Russian Federation dated Date withdrawn Number withdrawn, production control over the quality of source water (raw materials) from a water body (Lake Baikal - a water source) is not carried out by the company.

Vzhukh - and instead of “Putin is selling Baikal to the Chinese” - the specific owner of a particular OJSC “Baikal Pulp and Paper Mill” connected a Chinese company for money to his water supply pipe.

All products are sold only in the PRC, in the Russian Federation they are not just not sold, but cannot be sold purely technically - it does not pass SanPin and does not even hide it. Russian inscriptions on the bottle are mandatory for products actually produced in the Russian Federation, and not because this water is massively put on the shelves of Russian stores.

Those. There is no “The Chinese are selling Baikal to us” - they are bringing with them what they do not plan to sell on the territory of the Russian Federation. Because in Russia this water will not be bought, but it will work out to its Chinese people to sell it at a high price. As an exclusive product. Although, in essence, industrial water from the pipe of the plant.

However, the question may arise - what kind of Chinese legal entity appears in the text of the court's decision - with the name LLC "LAKE BAIKAL - LUN CHUAN".

Here's the info:

Full name / full name of individual entrepreneur - Limited Liability Company “OZERO BAIKAL - LUN CHUAN” Full name of the head - Mager Alexey Nikolaevich Position - Director of the OGRN - 1153850024525 Address of the location of the legal entity / InUL or residence of the individual entrepreneur - 665932, RUSSIA, Irkutsk Region, Slyudyansky district, city Baikalsk, Industrial site territory, house 12

There are no other legal entities with this name.

How much “the Chinese know” is clear without additional comments.

OK, we sorted it out - as well as with "Putin personally allowed them, but the locals, crying, could not do anything" and "The Chinese are selling us our Baikal." Everything turned out to be fake, as usual, as with “our forest is being cut down” and so on. It remains to figure out the production volumes of this enterprise - after all, it is postulated that Baikal is growing shallow before our eyes, and solely because of a specific firm, completely Chinese, which completely pumps out Baikal, because Putin personally said “Download of course”? Let's crunch on the numbers.

Baikal's area is 31,722 square kilometers. One millimeter of the lake level will be approximately 31.7 million cubic meters.

Firm "LUNTSAIBINKHAY" in 2016 bottled about 50 thousand cubic meters per year, and in 2017 reached a working volume of about 100 thousand cubic meters per year. For the level of Lake Baikal to change by a millimeter, the company needs about 317 years at this rate. Yes, and if we take all sorts of subtle topics - that, for example, a river flows out of Lake Baikal - is shallow at all, the Angara is called - then the volumes will generally become ridiculous. The materiel in numbers can be viewed, for example, here.

Based on scientific data, without damaging the ecosystem of Lake Baikal, it is possible to extract up to 400 million tons of water per year - this is 0.5% of the expendable part of the lake's water balance. Compare this with one hundred thousand cubic meters and the thesis “Baikal is growing shallow before our eyes - thanks to Putin”. The Chinese take less per year, moreover, bottling in very conditional sanitary conditions, than a pulp and paper mill spoils water per day. Taking in a year is much less than the spring flood per day.

However, there are also Russian producers of water from Lake Baikal who officially sell it on the retail market of the Russian Federation. And they even shoot commercials for China, also wanting to enter this market. Only these are Russian manufacturers whose products comply with Russian quality standards, which are tougher than Chinese ones, and can be purchased. Yes, it is more expensive than the mass brands bottled by Pepsico and Coca-Cola firms in the Moscow region - but this is quite logical. Why don't they write anything about them? Oh, yes, after all this will not work to deduce “Putin sold Baikal to China”.

Result

A Russian commercial firm has connected to a pulp and paper mill's water intake. The volume of taken water is less than the measurement error and, in principle, cannot affect the level of Lake Baikal, the expenditure part of the water balance of which is orders of magnitude greater. Water from the water intake of the pulp and paper mill is bottled and transported to China as a Siberian exclusive for successful Chinese. They do not sell in Russia, because SanPin will not pass such water, and no one will pay so much to actually transport water from Lake Baikal to the European part of the country. Confirmed data, all timber business in Siberia belongs to China!

This stuffing is also more than 20 years old - about “secret Chinese cities with a population of over one million in the taiga, where the Russian government does not operate” and other things like “in fact, Yeltsin has already given the Far East to China” it was said at the beginning of the 2000s. But now the inconvenient thing about Yeltsin is being removed and the stuffing-in is urgently reclassified, based on memory “yes, yes, for sure, something like that has been talked about for a long time”:

Let's go through the text, pushing through the characteristic “tearful-tearful” presentation of the format “God, babonki, but what is being done - just burst into tears and, wringing his hands, it remains to moan sorrowfully - alas”. This feed, of course, shows that the target audience is the same Internet infantiles with a woman's consciousness and emotions ahead of reason, as, for example, in the news about high-tech breakthroughs of the Light Western Countries - where everything is also emotional, “They did IT again. We have created a miracle, which we consider with trembling, sobbing with happiness to be involved in this, there is no time to think, we get emotional, enjoying the tremor of our emotions”.

The volume of timber harvesting per year in 1 million cubic meters is not huge numbers, but zilch.

We take data for one of the last years of the USSR, 1981, for which there is information on exports to other countries, and we see that the USSR exports 358.2 million cubic meters per year. USA in the same year - 411 million. The Irkutsk region alone in 1981 produced up to 18 million cubic meters. "Huge figures" of logging as much as a million cubic meters from the largest company in Russia means that since the days of the USSR, the rate of felling has dramatically decreased.

Author i.e. or did not even bother to study the scale of the market at all, or deliberately tries to work with an illiterate audience, crushing with numbers. A million cubic meters! At the largest company! Wow!

Further, about:

Secondly, we literally began to tear apart information about this company, and this is what information is: in 2018, most of the shares passed into the hands of the PRC. The owner of the share is GREAT GAINING LIMITED from Hong Kong.

The authorized capital on both sides is billions of rubles.

“They literally began to tear apart information” - this is a good emotional moment for the reader to understand that the Authorities are Hiding, but Caring People got to the bottom of the Truth.

Hides this turnover behind itself the usual googling of the name of the company. You can do this too, I will help with a link in Russian.

Here.

and so on (type the address into a search engine).

This is the place of mass registration, a carriage of nominal firms is registered to this address. These are offshore companies for tax cuts.

Those. the man, without hesitation, from the fact “the Russian office, in the interests of a specific Russian owner, reduces its tax deductions towards the state” deduces “Putin is selling Russia”. Excellent. A holy suffering businessman and a bad official, embezzler, how sweet and familiar it is.

An outright lie is also contained in the "Authorized capital on both sides - billions of rubles." GREAT GAINING LIMITED has a minimum authorized capital for Hong Kong of HKD 10.000 (this is just over 70 thousand rubles), i.e. it is an absolute "gasket" that does not perform any function other than reducing taxation. And for whom, really for Putin? We look - and it is owned, through denomination, by a certain TOLOKEVICH L - and lo and behold, the owner of TSLK - Leonid Ivanovich Tolokevich. What an amazing coincidence, how cleverly these Chinese disguised themselves!

The author's manipulation with offshore companies is rather primitive and suggests that the final conclusions are matched to a clearly formulated task. The author takes the fact that large firms use offshore companies to reduce taxation - and this is how they do it all over the world, but the author leads to the false “… only in This Country”, then selects Hong Kong ones from offshore companies - discarding the fact that leadership in this area and the maximum percentage is still in Crete and Malta (it’s trite it’s cheaper and easier there), and writes the conclusion - “They sold everything to the Chinese, Putin sold it to the Chinese, so they sold everything, and Putin is selling everything”. Normal move, the audience is sobbing, there is silence in the brain, we are emotional. After all, they did not pay for “Private owners withdraw money through Malta”. Mention “The largest financial flow - through offshores in the BVI, and this is the UK” - was not paid. They paid for the thesis about China, and they push it.

With this sorted out - what other "arguments" are left for the thesis about "Everything belongs to China"?

Let's go through the legal entities mentioned in the text.

TSLK

“The largest company in the country” has been in liquidation since 2016. Those. posting from June 2018, postulating “This company was given the rights to cut down huge volumes, now it’s going to start” is a lie.

Shay Tai LLC

The director is someone Tai She. Liquidated in May 2018. Yes, and she had nothing to do with deforestation - her activities were “Retail trade in hardware, paints and varnishes and glass in specialized stores”. The author is deliberately lying and added this hastily googled company because of the Chinese owner in order to create the illusion of mass character. Gina LLC

In the text:

Another Chinese businessman with a similar name, Li Jian Jun, in the Republic of Buryatia, owns the Jina LLC company, whose main activity is the sawn timber trade.

LLC Gina from Buryatia is, exactly one. To enhance the effect, the author lies that the owner is Chinese; in reality there are three owners, one of them is a Russian. And the company LLC Gina does not have a license for timber extraction, its licensed type of activity is “Exploration and production of minerals, including the use of waste from mining and related processing industries”. Author i.e. again, I found that the main thing was that the keywords “China” and “Siberia” were, but missed - LLC Gina cannot cut down the forest in any way.

Mentioned side by side in the text, LLC "EXWOOD" and LLC "Kristall" were closed in 2006 and 2011, respectively. Other firms mentioned in the context of “Owned by Li Jian Jun” are involved in construction, i.e. erecting buildings and structures in Transbaikalia. Those. about “All these firms export timber to China” - a lie.

LLC "Business Center on Gornaya"

This is really a legal entity of the business center, it is not engaged in the production of sawn timber or their processing. The author again found "anything, the main thing is that the Chinese names shine."

The list can be continued for a long time, the essence is simple - the author once climbed into the database of legal entities and simply wrote out companies owned by people with Chinese names. And from this it is inferred "… which means there are simply no other firms, so everything belongs to them." Obviously, this is not just manipulation, but outright lies and order processing.

Result

In the super-emotional text of Pavel P. - the author of the site, self-named, where his quotes are displayed in the right column to himself, as well as earning money on this topic, monetizing the emotions of people who find it easier to react to tearful lies than to think - everyone is false thesis. From “Here's a Hong Kong offshore company - which means that all Siberia was sold to China by Putin” to “Here are some firms owned by Chinese - although firms are engaged in different types of activities, it all shows that Siberia has been sold to China by Putin.”

Pavel P. could not confirm in any way that “in Western and Eastern Siberia, I officially inform that practically all the forestry business belongs to the PRC,” and also repeatedly fell for the obvious lie - that LLC “TSLK”, for example, is the largest timber processing company in Russia. In fact, there are completely open sources, the same rating of the top 50 of the oldest magazine "Forest Industry", or the rating of the National Forestry Agency, which lists the real largest timber processing companies in Russia. With a really huge fleet of equipment, the number of personnel, and other indicators that are obvious for big business. But he could neither confirm nor indicate the sources of reliable information.

The moment of hasty preparation of the material for publication is also quite interesting:

May of this year, i.e. month ago.

A person is urgently looking for any material on a given topic. Those. the topic already exists, and the wording has already been approved - the author collects any material, that everything is exactly as the customers approved him. It was in this order, and not vice versa - that is, not “I went and this is what I saw”, but “I have to go and so that from there there is definitely material with the right accent - send me this.”

A person is looking for any proofs in a panic, even fake ones - moreover, “we guarantee confidentiality” (!!!). Why is this, sorry, if we are talking about the fact that "Putin has officially transferred the territory to China"? In this case, you just need to come and fix it. Well, if the scale is huge and everything is official. The same coordinates of felling sites - which, according to the author, are darkness. Which "the author, constantly traveling, sees for years." Or … is it all just fiction on a given topic?

It turns out that the author - unemployed, I note - has already paid for the expedition, he already knows when and where he leaves, and what he will see there - but he has zero proofs and he asks for them from subscribers. In order to then “bring” these videos and postings, collected on the net, like “I've traveled here and I HAVE SEEN PERSONALLY”. Wonderful.

That is, “I have been traveling across Russia for years and tears are welling up, and so I decided to make a film,” “I myself see it all the time” - and for May there is no material for “a film that has been created for years,” but the topic and budget are already there.

Indeed, a magical picture.

The procedure for promoting this material is also interesting. In addition to paid (and not cheap) promotion in liberal and Ukrainian publics in social networks, the author - “famous writer” - on the site, each article has a counter of visits. Which, in the case of this article, goes over a million. However, a small experiment shows that the author, for some reason, as a counter for this article simply displays the number of attempts to open any page of the resource. I wrote a test script that presented itself as a Google search bot and simply opened the root page of the site a thousand times - and during the operation of this script, this article had 1002 more visits. A very interesting move, is it really so critical for the author who “just brings the truth to people” to show the reach of the audience to someone that he takes such actions? What for?

Petition on change.orgThe author, making a profit by collecting money for unnamed "expenses associated with the protection of Russian forests", made an obvious move for any external order for such movements - a petition was created, but not on the Russian, but on the American website. Despite the fact that in mid-2018, everyone knows that there is a Russian ROI website for petitions that need to be considered.

But after all, the Russian site will have to somehow be responsible for publishing false information, and if the goal is “to pump the topic, to attract the people,” and not to take some action following the results, then why ROI? Change.org is perfect - and sponsors are more comfortable, just for the links in their materials, they need everything to happen on their “own” platform, known to the consumer of potential materials, “Here's what actually happens in Russia”.

We open the text of the petition and see a lot of what has already been discussed above. Coupled with a fabulous intensity of emotions and a lack of facts:

Several years ago, massive deforestation began throughout Siberia and the Far East, including reserves and relict taiga.

(a rather trivial lead to “… well, you understand who it started with” - in fact, massive felling took place under the USSR, now their volume has sharply decreased, so much forest is not necessary to cut corny).

As part of the cooperation of the two superpowers, Russia and China, the Russian Federation transferred millions of hectares of forest to the PRC for felling!

A common lie, i.e. no one transmitted anything. The author will undoubtedly refer to secret documents known only to him and to believers, but the obviousness “is not the time to think, we react more emotionally” just creeps out of all the cracks.

After the transfer of forests to China, at the level of local authorities in these regions, open "forest banditry" began: feeling their impunity far from Moscow, all and sundry began to cut down forests under any pretext and sell to China.

Here, of course, the intensity of absurdity is absolutely epic, and with the logic of all the rules - however, the author, apparently, did not even google about such a word. If the lawlessness of local authorities and businessmen does exist, then it is already a problem of commercial corruption, and not an "international agreement on the transfer of Siberia."

Solid wood processing plants have been built on the border with the PRC, in addition, China has become the main exporter of timber to the United States and other countries.

We have already analyzed this above - i.e. the author writes outright lies in the text of the petition. “Solid woodworking factories”, as is clear, are so solid and freshly built - especially taking into account the fact that dragging a forest across the border is not like carrying amber from Ukraine with backpacks, as Chinese tourists do - that there is no evidence of this large-scale industrial action for some reason- then no.

What is significant - all of this - every throw-in - "eyeliner" and the main one - again for May 2018. Up to the mention of Baikal.

What an interesting puzzle that fits together. To be continued …