The Chinese are not at all 1.5 billion?

2024 Author: Seth Attwood | [email protected]. Last modified: 2023-12-16 15:55

If you look at China, a very big bewilderment arises: where do the 1.5 billion people who allegedly live in China live and what do they eat? The twenty largest urban centers provide a population of just over 200 million people …

Today, patriotic circles often mention the desire of the Anglo-Saxon world to embed us in a war with China. Very similar to that. In this regard, it is often heard from various domestic experts that the Chinese are about to shower us with hats, take away the whole of Siberia and other catastrophic forecasts. Can this be?

I served for 3 years urgently in the Far East in the border troops, I studied patriotism on the example of the heroes of Damansky, however, as it seems to me, the devil is not so terrible …

As you know, China, in addition to being a world factory, is also famous for its huge population of about 1.347 billion people (some experts do not stand on ceremony and talk about 1.5 billion - Russian 145 million people as a statistical errors), and the average density is about 140 people per 1 sq. km) and a fairly decent territory (3rd in the world after Russia and Canada - 9, 56 million sq. km).

There is a story that either an orderly or some other assistant to Suvorov, writing down from the words of Alexander Vasilyevich a report to the capital about another victory, was surprised at the overestimated numbers of killed enemy soldiers. To which, Suvorov allegedly said: "Why feel sorry for their foes!"

About the population

The Chinese, followed by the Indians, Indonesians, and indeed the whole of Asia, clearly understood that the population of their countries is the same strategic weapon as bombs and missiles.

No one can reliably say what is the actual demographic situation in Asia, in this case, in China. All data are estimates, at best, information from the Chinese themselves (the last census in 2000).

Surprisingly, despite the government's policy of limiting the birth rate (one family - one child) that has been pursued for the last 20 years, the population is still growing by 12 million people a year, according to experts, due to the huge baseline (i.e. initial) digits.

I am definitely not a demographer, but 2 + 2 = 4. If you have 100 people: two died in a year, one was born, in a year 99. If 100 million or 1 billion, and the ratio of births and deaths is negative, then what is the difference in the initial figure, the result will be negative. The Chinese and demographic experts, paradoxically, have a positive!

A very confusing question. For example, in the monograph by Korotaev, Malkov, Khalturin “ Historical Macrodynamics of China There is an interesting table:

1845 - 430 million;

1870 - 350;

1890 - 380;

1920 - 430;

1940 - 430, 1945 - 490.

I came across an old atlas, which said that in 1939, i.e. before World War II, in China, there were 350million people. You don't need to be an expert to see the huge discrepancies and the absence of any coherent system in the behavior of the Chinese population.

Either a drop of 80 million in 25 years, or an increase of 50million over 30 years, then no change over 20 years. The main thing is that the initial number 430million taken absolutely from the ceiling, who considered their adversaries. But the fact seems to be obvious - for 95 years from 1845 to 1940, the number of Chinese did not change, as it was, and remains.

But over the next 72 years (taking into account the destructive wars, hunger and poverty, more than 20 years of containment policy), the growth is almost a billion!

For example, everyone knows that the USSR lost 27 million people during the Great Patriotic War, but few people know that the second country in terms of human losses is China - 20 millionHuman. Some experts (perhaps, like our Chubais) talk about 45 million 60 million.! Moreover, in addition to the World War, there was also a civilian in China, and 23 million people now live in Taiwan.people who were considered Chinese in the 40th year.

However, as a result of the formation PRCin 1949, the population of the PRC already amounted to 550 million people. For 4 years, we do not consider those who fled to Taiwan, and the growth is simply galloping 60 million people. Then there was the Cultural Revolution with countless repressions and the eating of sparrows during the lean years, and the population grew faster and faster.

And yet, we will almost believe and count on our knees. 430 in 1940. That's a lot, of course. 430 million. About half are women (there are even fewer women in Asia, but let it be). About 200. Of these, grandmothers and girls - another 2/3. Women give birth from about 15 to 40 = 25 years, and live over 70. We get 70 million. We believe that there are no childless and lesbians in China, + discount on my demographic lack of professionalism = 70 million childbearing women in 1940.

How many children did these young ladies have to give birth to so that in 9 years there would be 490 million Chinese, a 15% increase? War, devastation, no medicine, the Japanese are atrocities … According to science, if my memory serves me, in order not to simply reduce the population, you need to give birth 3-3, 5. And an additional 90 million for 70 million women in labor, another 1, 2 people. Physically for 9 years 4-5 children are not easy, but possible, but….

The Internet writes that according to the 1953 census 594 million, and in 1949 not 490, but 549 million. For 4 years forty fivemillion. In 13 years the population has grown from 430 to 594, by 164 million, more than a third. Thus, 70 million women in 13 years gave birth to 3.5 for each for reproduction + about 2.5 (163: 70) = 6.

Someone will object, in Russia there was also a boom at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries. But in Russia at that time the Japanese did not slaughter 20 million people + 20 million did not flee to Taiwan. And, returning to the table, what prevented the Chinese from increasing by at least 10 million in the previous 100 years? Immediately in 13 years 164 million, as if from a bush, into hunger and war. Yes, I almost forgot, such trifles as the Korean War, where about 150 thousand more childbearing Chinese men died, are completely ridiculous to take into account. In the decades that followed, the Chinese multiplied and multiplied beyond measure.

I think they their Chinese, like Fed dollars, just draw out of thin air … Nobody argues, there are a lot of Chinese, as well as Indians and Indonesians, there are still plenty of Nigerians, Iranians, Pakistanis. But there are many, many are strife. And the Indians are great, they picked up the initiative in time.

Now a little about the territory. China is big, but … Take a look at the administrative map of the PRC. There are so-called autonomous regions (Ary) in China. There are 5 of them, but now we are talking about 3: Xinjiang Uyghur, Inner Mongolia and Tibetan.

These three ARs occupy 1, 66 million square kilometers, 1, 19 million square kilometers, respectively. km and 1, 22 million sq. km, only about 4 million sq. km, almost half of the territory of the PRC! He lives in these territories, respectively 19, 6 million people 23, 8 million and 2, 74 million, total about 46 million people, about 3% population of the PRC. Of course, these areas are not the most wonderful for living (mountains, deserts, steppes), but no worse than Outer Mongolia or our Tuva or, for example, Kyrgyzstan or Kazakhstan.

Most of the Chinese live in the area between the Yellow River and the Yangtze and on the warm coastline (South and Southeast). By the way about Mongolia. If Inner Mongolia is larger in territory than France and Germany combined, then Mongolia-Outer Mongolia is almost 1.5 times larger in territory than Inner Mongolia = 1.56 million square meters. km. There is practically no population of 2, 7 million people (the density of 1, 7 people per sq. Km, in the PRC, let me remind you, 140, including the above-named Aras, where the density, respectively: 12, 20 and 2 people / sq. Km; in Mesopotamia under 300 people per square kilometer lives, cockroaches and only, if you believe the statistics).

The resources, for which the Chinese allegedly will go to Siberia, at the risk of running into Russian atomic bombs, in Mongolia, and in Kazakhstan the same, is full, but there are no bombs. Moreover, why not push the idea of reunification-unification of the Mongolian people under the wing of the Celestial Empire?

There are 150-200 thousand Chinese in Russia. Total! The total population of the Khabarovsk, Primorsky Territories, the Amur Region and the Jewish Autonomous Region (about 5 million) cannot be compared, of course, with the border province of Heilongjiang (38 million), but still.

However, the Mongols are sleeping peacefully (the Chinese and Russians in Mongolia combined are 0, 1% of the population - 2 thousand somewhere), the Kazakhs are also not very tense.

It seems to me that you need to be afraid Burma with its 50 million population and a fairly large territory of 678 thousand square meters. km. The same South China billion hangs over it, it is in Myanmar that the dictatorial regime is, they, the villains, oppress the Chinese minority (1.5 million people). And, most importantly, the equator is nearby, the sea coast is huge and warm, warm.

But even the Burmese comrades, as they say, do not care, and we are in a panic.

Well, okay, the Americans are afraid of the Chinese communists in Taiwanese affairs to put things in order, but Vietnam frankly runs up, screams that it is not afraid, constantly reminds about the past fight, Laos and Cambodia took over the supervision of the newly-made Big Brother. China and Vietnam are arguing about oil-bearing islands, and so is the world.

Strange Chinese. The people are already sitting on each other's heads, and they do not even develop their vast territories, not to mention weak neighbors such as Burma and Mongolia. But they will definitely attack Buryatia, the 150,000th expeditionary force has already been sent out, half of them are stuck in Moscow for some reason, someone is in warm Vladivostok, but this is nonsense, at the first call - to Siberia.

Well, that's probably all, in the first approximation.

Seva_riga's comment:

Additional considerations on this …

Population of the earth is rapidly declining … It is possible to estimate this reduction at least by the real population of China. Viktor Mekhov wrote a very interesting article in which he gives arguments in favor of the fact that the population of China is 3-4 times less than we were taught to think (there is a very interesting video there as well). Surely the same can be said about India, and about other obviously poor countries, with an unaffordable "large" population …

It is quite easy to check this: you need to go to Wikipedia and sum up the population of the 20 largest cities in China. And you get an impressive number of about 230million people (taking into account the population of the districts). Where do the rest of the people live? Where do the rest of the billion live? In the countryside? Does he live in cottages? Where do they grow food then? In the mountains of Tibet, which occupy almost half of the country's territory? But they need a lot of food, if you believe that China is home to 1 billion 340 million people!

We look further. Duropedia reports that in 2010, China produced 546 million tons of grain, while the cultivated area in China is 155.7 million hectares. And to ensure normal nutrition for the population, the country needs to grow on average about 1 ton of grain per person per year. Part of this grain is used for livestock feed, and part for bread making and other needs. So China is clearly not providing itself with grain, if you believe that it has such a large population. Or it provides, if the population there is 3 times less than it is believed.

By the way, you can easily check this by the indicators of the United States. And everything will be clear and understandable right away! Look: in the United States, an average of about 60 million tons of wheat is harvested per year from an area of about 20 million hectares. In addition, 334 million tons of corn are harvested there from 37.8 million hectares, and 91.47 million tons of soybeans from an area of 30.9 million hectares. Thus, the total grain harvest is about 485 million tons from an area of about 89 million hectares. And the population of the United States is only about 300 million people! Surplus cereals are exported.

This immediately shows that the lack of grain production in China is about 800 million tons per year, which is practically nowhere to buy, if you believe that the population is 1.4 billion people. And if you do not believe in this fairy tale, then everything falls into place, and the population of China should be no more than 500 million people!

And one more clue: Wikipedia reports that the share of the urban population in 2011 for the first time was 51, 27%, which also confirms the hypothesis that the real population of China does not exceed 500 million people.

The same thing happens with India! Let's count the population of the 20 largest cities in India. The answer will surprise you very much: it is only about 75 million people. 75 million people! And where do the rest of the billion two hundred million live? The country's territory is slightly more than 3 million square meters. km. Apparently, they live in nature with a density of about 400 people per 1 sq. km.

The population density in India is twice that of Germany. But in Germany there are solid cities all over the territory. And in India, allegedly about 5% of the population lives in cities. For comparison: in Russia, the share of the urban population is 73%, with a population density of 8, 56 people / sq. Km. But in the United States, the share of the urban population is 81.4%, with a population density of 34 people / sq. km.

Could the official information on India be true?? Of course not! The population density in rural areas is always only a few people per sq. km, i.e. 100 times lower than in India. And this is a clear confirmation that the population in India is 5-10 times less than what is written in official sources.

In addition, according to Wikipedia, almost 70% of Indians live in rural areas, so our estimated 75 million urban residents make up about 30% of India's population. Consequently, the total population of this proportion will be about 250 million people, which is much more true than the tale of a billion.

India is so far just a cesspool with a ditched ecology and an incapable population, a maximum of 200-300 million people. And the Indian-Chinese myth of a huge population is needed just so that the parasites can continue to painlessly deceive you and me and continue to destroy the population of the planet …

See also the film: Fake antiquity of China