Tartaria, Dauria - echoes of the glory of the departed Empires. Who destroyed the Ancient Cities? Argentum of the Argun river

2024 Author: Seth Attwood | [email protected]. Last modified: 2023-12-16 15:55

ALMOST DETECTIVE INVESTIGATION

Good day, dear users! "Reading Vivliofica" (continued) came across an almost detective story (with several, parallel plots) which I immediately wanted to investigate, which I proceed to without delay, thereby opening EPISODE 2 (read episode 1 -

The episode will focus on the journey of Lord Eberhard Izbound (as Ambassador of Their Majesties John and Pavel Alekseevich Romanovs) to China, to the court of Bogdykhan.

A little about the personality of the ambassador, how interesting, just as vague. There is information about Mr. Ebergarde, but they are collected literally bit by bit, as a result of the study of third-party documents in which he deigned to appear in one way or another. In short, the ambassador himself, or whether Holstein, or Dutch, his name was Chosen Ides (later he was baptized and took the Russian name - Elizariy)

Before joining the tsar's service, he was a fairly large businessman, traded with the Russian Empire, lived in Moscow for a long time. Apparently he had the goal of somehow gaining a foothold here with us, which, apparently, he achieved, having a good reputation in the world (he often arranged receptions, balls) and a benevolent attitude towards himself on the part of the royal persons (although it cannot be said that he was a close friend) more details on his biography can be found here -

In the second episode, we will continue to examine the fragments of his journey, and we will approach the Russian-Chinese border itself, and this is the Trans-Baikal Territory, the sacred, ancient land of Dauria, the Argun River, Amur, Serebryanka, and everything nearby, including settlements.

Reading page 403

(Immediately, on the move, "hooked" - "ancient ANUNGALS".. Surely not the Anunnaki by chance?)

First, let's deal with the first paragraph - the localization of the object on a modern map … After examining the Google map, I found the village of Argunsk, the Serebryanka River, and the Amur and Argun, but they are all located in such a location, at such distances that they can reproduce the traveler's movement on the map (in original sequence) does not seem possible in any way.. Well, then we start the investigation - we turn on intuition, connect to the info-field, and naturally we use the beloved (and equally hated) one who knows everything about everyone, Wikipedia..

So, as you can see on the map, there is the location of the Serebryanka River (in pink), the village of Argunsk (in red), from where Elizariy set off, and the Argun River (in blue). There is only the confluence of the Serebryanka and the Amur, as Mr. Ambassador describes to us … Amur in general, begins much further downstream, formed as a result of the confluence of the Argun and Shilka, and this is about 250 km (and then, if in a straight line) therefore the Serebryanka cannot fall into the Amur in any way, if only through the Argun, which will kindly bring its waters to the confluence with the Shilka, of course already in its composition..

Tex, what to do? Either the skis do not go, or someone messed up something … I admit that Elizar (we will call our hero further, in Russian, because this is his last name) messed up with Amur - THIS IS UNIFORMALLY, perhaps he calls the Argun River Amur (where Serebryanka flows into) But then what about the village of Argunsk, on the old maps it is not, but on modern Argunsk it is very far from Serebryanka and from its confluence with the Argun-Amur (28 km is clearly not 8 miles) and Elizar said something about eight miles..

Now what? Let's look around at Serebryanka, maybe we'll find some settlements that match the description? Yes, there is a settlement, Nerchinsky Zavod.. Let's look at Wikipedia - what is there about our case?

Aha, the plant was originally called Argun

Considering that Peter did not create, but only restored, including St. Petersburg (which does not detract from his merits), it can be assumed with full confidence that the current village of Nerchinsky Zavod (later name) was the very Argun-Argunsk (from which Elizary was nominated) a settlement on the site of an inoperative plant, which was restored and put into operation by the tsarist specialists, calling this reincarnation without further ado - Argun Plant, that is, a plant in the village of Argun..

THERE IS A CONTACT !!! And here are the first swallows -

That is, travel dates from 1692d, a the factories were launched already in 1704 (minus 3 years travel = 9 years !!) - quite quickly for that time, especially considering the distance from the capital, and the means of transportation existing at that time !! HERE WE RECEIVE NEWS FROM WIKIPEDIA THAT ELIZAR'S PROJECT (with samples of silver ore) REMOVED !!!

Nerchinsky Zavod.. Cossack border guard.. 1905

We look at the distance from the Nerchinsky (Argunsky) Plant to the confluence of the Serebryanka into the Argun (Amur, as Elizar thought) - indeed, eight miles, as written in the report (though in a straight line), but Elizar also thinks that he did not measure the distance with a tape measure - a slight backlash takes place..

In principle, it does not matter that it was in this or in the wrong place where Elizar indicated in his report (two miles up the Argun-Amur River) that silver smelting plants were opened - the region is literally strewn with antediluvian Veliko Kham mines, neglected and requiring restoration (which Tsar Peter ordered to do)

VITSEN

You can read about this from Vitsyn (Witsen), who, although he himself did not visit those parts, but had a lot of fresh and reliable (for the most part) information on the region and the state of affairs in it at the current moment of his time. his book:

Okay, huh? That is, everything grows together, and even the approximate time (for Vitsyn, 1694, and for us, 1692, for Elizar), the thought arises - Didn't Vitsyn use insider information for his books?

Everything is too similar - almost the same

Vitsyn (Witsen) even drew drawings of the remains of destroyed cities from sketches, descriptions of travelers:

VITSYN about DAURIA - the ancient Tartar land of modern Transbaikalia.

(a source -

And now about the "SOURCE OF INSPIRATION" VITSYNA

And here is the confirmation of the secondary nature of this information (Vitsyna) in relation to the one we are considering (Elizarovskaya):

In addition, I would like to inform you that all the information "from Vitsin" is originally in Vivliofik (8th part) word for word, and these are the notes of "our Holstein resident" Elizar. …

We compare the time of the event (1692 for Elizar and Adam Brand, and 1694 for Vitsyn) and.. OIL PICTURE !! Well, okay, that's not the point, this is a saying, guys, a fairy tale will be ahead.

BLOG AUTHOR'S SUBJECTIVE OPINION

Personally, my opinion. that these are the destroyed cities of the Once Mighty Empire of the Great Ham, which began to collapse back in the 13th century (due to civil strife - three sons began to share the legacy of their father, the Great Ham) Gradually, it disintegrated, later Tamerlane himself, while still a subject of V. Kh., stopped paying tribute to Ham, or rather to his sons, sensing the weakness, and choosing the right moment to isolate and become the sole ruler of their lands.. (more on this in Rui Gonzales)

Naturally, a civil war began - a great turmoil, the empire began to disintegrate.. Whoever was stronger and had the capabilities, resources, he "grabbed" everything that was possible (perestroika), the agony lasted for three hundred years.. So this many new states arose, on a huge territory, as well as destroyed cities, which were finished off by a worldwide catastrophe, the end of the world, a great flood, or whatever else was there … but what was - there is no doubt about it … And Alex the Macedonian has nothing to do with it, nothing it is worth discussing a person how much in vain..

The climate itself has changed - it has become tougher, more contrasting (it is hot during the day and cold at night) because the climate on the planet has worsened, all geophysics has changed, as well as the composition of the atmosphere, pressure, the geomagnetic poles themselves have changed … Deserts have increased in size (once it was a fertile land) that can be traced on old maps - the same happened in Africa and Central Asia, and on the Arabian p-island, or there is more -

Yes, we read an excerpt from our leaflet:

It is clear that it was brought by the mudflows of the Great Flood, and not by rain streams (something needs to be explained what happened) And there are no mountains nearby, so that the earth crumbles from them, the hills are alone.

Well, okay, let's continue … If you count two miles from the mouth of the Serebryanka, up the Argun River, you get the following picture

Small hills, devoid of vegetation, typical mudflows, possibly based on salty ocean water (that's why nothing really grows - hence the strengthening of the desert) This is the very place … You can see the alienation of the upland, stratified by mudflows from the native, continental soil, in the floodplain rivers (washed by her) where there is something growing..

Perhaps there were factories here (modern photo), but if in those days they were dilapidated, what can we say about the current situation … There is something suspicious on the hill, from above (traces of the remains of the foundation?) But I would not argue..

In general, Elizar brought ore samples, and in the shortest possible time, the abandoned mines and factories started working. The Russian Empire began to receive income, jobs appeared - thanks to Elizar-Holstein (who himself probably did not lose out)

It is also necessary to be able to do this - he himself earned, and gave others the opportunity, and he served his fatherland (new homeland) fairly. Aleksandrovsky, Gazimursky Plants, and how many of them there were in the district - who can count them..

Nerchinsk plant, fig. 18th century

ARGUN - RIVER and SILVER SPRAYS.. Where did the name of the river come from?

Now we know that the region in the area of the Argun River is literally stuffed with silver, since ancient times it was mined here, even during the Great Hama, what was before him (probably something) we, alas, do not know … I think that they mined fossils before the beginning Empire of the Great Ham, and for a long time (my personal opinion)

Where did the name of the silver-bearing river come from (one of its tributaries is called the Serebryanka) Wikipedia gives its usual answer on this matter - many differing versions taken from the languages of the peoples living in the district, so - VIKI:

There were also other transcriptions: Ergune (among the Mongols), Arghuna (at Rashid Eddin), Urgen (in the chronicle of T. Toboev), Ergun (from the local historian I. Yurensky, 1852), Argon (at the Golds, according to Maksimovich). The Russians first encountered the name of this river: on the "Drawing of Siberia" in 1667 as Argun, on the "Drawing" of 1698 as a river Arghuna.

Having overcome this array, one thing becomes clear - it's clear that it's a dark matter.

I am ready to offer my own version of the origin of the name of the Argun River, no matter how unexpected it may seem to you, it is capable of simultaneously clearing these Augean stables from mud and mudflow layers that contradict each other.

And do not let the Latin root of the name confuse you - Latin itself is artificial, and the youngest language on the planet (where the whole group of Latin languages came from) and borrowed a lot from the Old Slovenian language.

For example, AIR - AER (Old Slovenian) Everything that is connected with flights begins with AERO (Latin) Well, in that spirit.. (I don’t remember now, offhand, similar examples) I am not an expert in the Old Slovenian language, and I don’t know how the word will sound on it silver, therefore, I admit that Latin was sculpted "from everything that was" including the names of metals and others.. If in short - THE NAME OF THE RIVER IS MUCH OLDER than THE MOST LATIN LANGUAGEas well as languages of relatively young local peoples..

The name of the river is based on the ancient name of the metal in abundance in the area … Therefore, the root of the word ARGENTUM should be sought in the name of the ARGUN river and not vice versa … It remains to understand in what ancient language silver sounded exactly like that. Well, I will certainly be glad be mistaken if someone cites irrefutable evidence that sheds light on the UNIQUE INTERPRETATION of the origin of the name of the ARGUN RIVER.

And how can we not recall some "ancient Princely clan of the Anungals?" Who mined silver-bearing ore from these mines?

NEED TO SEARCH WHO IS THIS

I found only a village in Sri Lanka - Anungala-Ahungala, and some documents in Indian. where this word appears.. In general, it turns out like this - THE NAME IS INDIAN.. and there is nothing surprising.. China itself, as an independent entity.was formed in the 18th century (so the ambassadors went there to establish contacts with a new neighbor) and created it by the Jesuits (more details here - and before that Chin, or Sin was … an Indian province, which is indicated on the map of the 15th century - India Chin

There were many rich cities (back in the 15th century), it is a pity that localizing our area is hardly possible (although I will try) tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock tick- tick-tock ………………………………………….

I was looking for an hour.. I couldn't find anything.. Then I got into Wikipedia, and.. Oh, Gods … Here it is !!!!! QUOTE:

Greek name for silver ἄργυρος, árgyroscomes from the Indo-European root * H₂erǵó-, * H₂erǵí-meaning " white, shining". Its Latin name comes from the same root - argentum

That is, the name of the metal, displayed in Indo-European (and therefore in Indian) - xergi - THIS IS ONE AND THE SAME in essence as Argun here the element of the subsequent centuries-old word transformation works … And in fact, it's as if we named the river SEREBRYANKA from the word SILVER … Yes, and it is not necessary to name the river exactly Argun - how many transcriptions she has from the original (below)

And again Vicky: There were also other transcriptions: Ergune (among the Mongols), Arghuna (at Rashid Eddin), Urgen (in the chronicle of T. Toboev), Ergun (from the local historian I. Yurensky, 1852), Argon (at the Golds, according to Maksimovich). The Russians first encountered the name of this river: on the "Drawing of Siberia" in 1667 as Argun, on the "Drawing" of 1698 as the Arguna river. Then say the Latin Argentum … the same word …

The fact that the name of the river is Indian, in fact, allows you to attach here, not for the night of the mentioned ANUNGALS (have you already forgotten?) The only trace of which was found in Sri Lanka, in the same India (resort village of Anungala-Ahungala)..

Serebryanka is not Silver, but it means belonging to it, in some way … The same and khergi - Argun, actually one word, pronounced differently in different languages, but the same root.

Naturally, the name of the river was declined by all the peoples living on its banks, and each in its own way … And any Indian name, differently older than the Latin alphabet … Even if the Greek name of silver is taken from there (according to the official version) and only then, Latin comes from Greek..

IN GENERAL, THE RIVER'S NAME IS GIVEN IN ANCIENT TIME BY MOVERS FROM THE NORTHERN TERRITORIES, THE ARYAN PEOPLES WHO GIVEN WRITING AND KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS (including smelting metal … land and sprouted - modern civilizations.

The name is due to the presence in the floodplain area of the river of colossal reserves of silver ore, which have been used for many centuries, maybe even a thousand years or more (author's version)

The name can presumably be translated as Serebryanka (from the word Silver)

P. S. the investigation took place in the "LIVE" mode, that is, I did not know how the post would end, and what the next paragraph would be, the discoveries were made in the order of the writing of the post AS IS ….