Table of contents:
- THE GREAT TARTARY IN RUSSIAN HISTORY
- SLAVS IN ANCIENT CHINA
- A chapter from the book of M. S. Milojevic "Excerpts from the history of the Serbs". Belgrade. 1872. Translated from Serbian by VG Barsukov
Video: Great and Chinese Tartary
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The article provides a brief reconstruction of the authors of the New Chronology in relation to the Great Tartary, the Pugachev uprising and the role of the Romanovs in these events. The second part is a study of Russian toponymy in the territory of modern China and Tibet.
THE GREAT TARTARY IN RUSSIAN HISTORY
(From the pages of the book: Nosovsky G. V., Fomenko A. T. Pugachev and Suvorov. The Secret of Siberian-American History.
M., "Ast", 2012)
In modern Russia, Great Tartary is widely represented on the Internet, which places Western European maps of the 16th-18th centuries, nevertheless, official historians prefer not to see them. They say that this is a simple delusion of cartographers who did not know what they were depicting. But there are also Russian maps of the 18th century. Semyon Remizov, on which this Great Tartary is depicted in the same way. The western border of Great Tartary under the Romanovs ran west of the Urals, parallel to the Volga.
It is believed that under Ivan the Terrible, with the campaign of Ermak, the development of Siberia began, but it belonged to the Russia of the Romanov Tsars. There are, for example, a letter from Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich sent to Siberia. This is an obvious forgery, which actually appeared after the "Pugachev uprising" (1773-1775), but it is dated, respectively, in the 17th century. Our book “Pugachev and Suvorov. The Secret of Siberian-American History ": it was the war of the Romanovs of the Petersburg period with the aim of subjugating Siberia. Our other books also say a lot about this. But the book "Pugachev and Suvorov …" is dedicated specifically to this topic.
Our research is based on a huge amount of factual material that has come down to us from the 18th century: books, and geographical maps, and border lines that remained on the ground, and guns. Of course, there are no guns themselves - there are places for guns, shafts, etc. According to these materials, Siberia before the Pugachev "uprising" was a separate state. It was not rigidly centralized, but, nevertheless, it was a confederation state, consisting of more or less independent parts from each other. This state was called Great Tartary. It was called so by the Europeans. What the Siberians called themselves is a very interesting question, and we are currently investigating it. Not only foreigners, but here, in Romanov's Russia, its top officials also called this federation state that way. This indicates that Siberia did not belong to Russia. Otherwise, the Romanovs would have called this territory a certain province. Siberian provinces arose after the "Pugachev uprising". We are told a tale that after this event, Empress Catherine II began to think about why all of Siberia suddenly belongs to the Kazan province. And it turns out that one of the provinces - Kazan - surpassed in size all the provinces of Russia taken together. Therefore, they say, they began to create Siberian provinces.
There was a separate coin - a Siberian one - independent of the Romanovs, which they also try to somehow awkwardly explain. A separate issue with gold and silver. The entire 18th century. Petersburg treasury experienced a huge shortage of precious metals. There was no gold and silver either, no diamonds. The incident happened to M. V. Lomonosov, who is 2 thousand rubles. issued in copper coins, because there was no silver or gold in the treasury. The prize to Lomonosov weighed … 2.5 tons! However, how was it not gold, we ask, if Siberia belonged to Romanov Russia? And Siberia is a treasure trove of gold and silver, especially gold. Moreover, Siberian developments have long been started, i.e. there seemed to be nothing to look for. Even in the letter of Alexei Mikhailovich Romanov of the 17th century.ordered to search and develop these gold deposits. How is it, sitting on a huge reserve of gold, and even surface gold, to have an empty treasury?
There are very vague explanations: yes, Romanov's Russia developed its own gold in the 18th century.. True, from one mine to… 400 g per year. And after the suppression of the "Pugachev uprising" only one of the Siberian gold mines began to produce tons. Etc.
What kind of state was it, Great Tartary? According to the version of Russian history familiar to us from school, this state could not exist. There is no place for him. We all know that Siberia was still conquered by Yermak, it was at the hand of the Moscow tsars. But if we look at Western European maps, but not the end of the 18th century, but the 16th-17th centuries, then Great Tartary covers not only Siberia, it also covers the entire European part of Russia (Muscovy). It was a single state. But with the coming to power of the pro-Western Romanov dynasty at the beginning of the 17th century. Siberia separated from Muscovy. A tough confrontation began.
Petersburg Romanovskaya Russia after Peter I was ruled, in fact, by the Germans. We said in detail in our books that Peter I was a fake tsar, and a certain group of Germans came with him. These ethnic Germans took over the country, they basically ruled it, and they were absolute Western Europeans. Therefore, Romanov Russia, in terms of ideology, was an absolutely Western European state, at least during the 18th century and in the first half of the 19th century, after which it began to degenerate. End of the 19th century - that's another matter. And at the beginning of the twentieth century. Russia finally began to become Russian (from the point of view of its rule). At least until 1917, but in the 18th century. … After a dispute between Lomonosov and German academicians (this is the beginning of the 18th century), Lomonosov was put under house arrest, and many of his associates were exiled and even executed. There was a wording: "For disrespect for German soil." At the beginning of the 18th century. Russian academicians were executed by death "for disrespect for German soil" - this must be remembered.
Great Tartary is Great Tartary, since “Great” means “great”. Great Russia - Big Russia, Little Russia - Little Russia.
How did Romanovskaya Russia still conquer Great Tartary with its impoverished treasury?
First, it was a big and brutal war. Secondly, it happens in general. One state was advanced and the other backward. Russia had factories and advanced technologies. And Great Tartary was quite loose. Yes, she had gold, but this is still not enough …
Tartary lost, despite such a vast territory, despite the large amount of gold, etc. Military affairs were backward. There were few firearms, there were no factories. Do not think that great states cannot perish. They can, and how! And very often - because of self-confidence, by the way. Empires think that they are great, but in fact, their greatness is already in the past. One must prove one's greatness, constantly be at the forefront of knowledge.
In its past, this state was both historically great and great in size. It covered, by the way, not only all of Siberia, but all of North America.
Why was this war presented as a war with some rebellious peasants? Because the significance of Great Tartary was that it was the heir to the once truly great world Russian proto-empire, which actually existed in our ancient and medieval history. Within the framework of our "New Chronology" it is called the Great = "Mongolian" empire.
Let's take a look at the then Western European maps. At the beginning of the 17th century. a gigantic state existed on the territory of Eurasia. Since the 19th century. he was excluded from world history. They pretended like it never existed.
But at the end of the 18th century. the situation changes dramatically. The study of the geographical maps of that time clearly shows that the STORM CONQUEST OF THESE LANDS BEGAN. It went from two sides at once. For the first time, the troops of the Romanovs entered the Russian-Horde Siberia and the Far East. And for the first time, the troops of the newly emerged United States entered the Russian-Horde western half of the North American continent, which stretched all the way to California to the south and to the middle of the continent to the east. On the maps of the world compiled at this time in Europe, a huge "blank spot" has "finally" disappeared. And on the maps of Siberia they stopped writing in large letters "Great Tartary" or "Moscow Tartary".
What happened at the end of the 18th century? After all that we have learned about the history of Russia-Horde, the answer seems to be clear. AT THE END OF THE XVIII CENTURY, THE LAST BATTLE BETWEEN EUROPE AND THE HORDE HAPPENED. The Romanovs are on the side of Europe. This immediately makes us look at the so-called "peasant-Cossack uprising of Pugachev" in 1773-1775 with completely different eyes.
The active advance of the United States to the "Wild West" began after the suppression of the "Pugachev uprising".
And here the interests of Russia and the United States clashed: first, the Romanovs ceded Oregon, then Alaska. 19th century deal between Russia and the United States - this is a deal on "disputed territories", as they said at the time in high government circles.
According to our reconstruction, Great Tartary - a fragment of the world state of the Great = "Mongol" Empire - was ruled by the Slavs, the diplomatic language was also Slavic. In the XVII century. Great = "Mongolian" empire collapsed, but its largest flap - Great Tartary - existed for almost 200 years. In the XVI century. politically, the world was still one. He had two centers (two capitals): Moscow and Istanbul. Hence the two-headed eagle. These were friendly capitals. We also have a completely wrong idea of the history of Turkey. Turkey of the second half of the 15th century, the whole of the 16th century. and the beginning of the 17th century. - was a state under Slavic rule. There is a huge amount of information about this. The same as about Great Tartary.
Today they are called "Tatars", to put it simply, the Muslim part of the Russian population. The Tatars themselves did not call themselves that before the 1917 revolution. At least the majority. The Turkic-speaking peoples called and call themselves in their own way. "Tatars" is not a self-name. Therefore, let's talk about the origin of the term. This term was introduced from above for ideological purposes. It was artificially glued on top of the Muslim population of the Russian Empire. Before the accession of the Romanovs, at first the Europeans called all of us, "Russians", "Tatars", including Russians. The Russians, however, did not have this name. It was imposed by the West and then entrenched in the Muslims of Russia. Someone was appropriated, someone did not succeed - but this moment belongs to a rather late period in our history.
Let's look again at Western European maps, for example, the 17th century. They talk about the Tobolsk Tatars. Let's take a statistical description of, say, the Tobolsk province of the middle of the 19th century. in the Brockhaus and Efron dictionary, where everyone can look. In the Tobolsk province, 98% of the Russians! The word "Russians" in the concepts of the XIX century. - these are Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians. In this sense, we will say "Russians", referring to the sources of the XIX century. Breeding Russians into three national "apartments" is a "merit" of Soviet scientists.
Let's take a statistical description of Siberia in the 19th century. and compare its population, say, with the statistical description of Central Russia, also in the 19th century. In our view, Central Russia is, as it were, a more Russian territory than Siberia, in which all sorts of foreigners are mixed. But the statistics of the 19th century speaks in favor of the huge quantitative predominance of Russians in Siberia. In the XIX century. Siberia was 85% Russian. And Central Russia - by 70%. This is one of the most convincing indications that Siberia at all times was a primordially Russian territory, since Stolypin's measures for the mass settlement of Siberia by Russian peasants began to be carried out only at the beginning of the 20th century.
You need to understand one more important thing: Tatar - aka Turkish language, which we today perceive as alien to us - is the national language of Russia. Our ancestors, Russians, were bilingual, and spoke Tatar, a more archaic language, perhaps. Today we communicate with each other in Russian, and the Muslim part of the population of Russia - both in Russian and in "Tatar", but this is a consequence of the artificial (religious) division of peoples. The Church-Slavic sacred language supplanted the Tatar language among the Russians. Muslims continue to speak Tatar, but another language was imposed on their great-grandfathers - the sacred Arabic language. But it is too difficult to learn and pronounce. Russian Muslims still do not understand him, although services in mosques are conducted in Arabic.
SLAVS IN ANCIENT CHINA
Below is a chapter from the book of the well-known European historian and ethnographer of the Serb M. Milojevic about the Slavs in China. On the basis of medieval maps and other primary sources, he discovers the Slavic place names of China and the Far East up to Lake Baikal. He writes that several millennia ago, the Slavs lived throughout Southeast Asia and Siberia, and the Chinese were formed as a result of the mixing of Mongoloids and Ethiopians, who once lived in Asia Minor and Africa. A primitive but militant tribe emerged. Approaching from the south, the future Chinese began to gradually oust the Slavs, destroy them and assimilate them.
According to M. Miloevich, all ancient inventions - gunpowder, paper, silk, etc. - were made by the Slavs.
Oddly enough, Miloevich mainly uses Russian primary sources of the 18th - early 19th centuries. This means that all the information on Ancient China in Russia was available, but a taboo was imposed on it.
Miloevich's book was published in the middle of the 19th century. This means that the famous traveler and at the same time the compiler of the map of the south of the Russian Far East V. K. Arseniev, as an educated person, should have known her. He, "to the eyeballs" saturated our Primorye with Chinese toponyms, could not but know about the Slavic toponyms of both China and the entire south of the Far East - Primorye and Priamurye.
Thus, China is the primordially Slavic territory of our antiquity.
A chapter from the book of M. S. Milojevic "Excerpts from the history of the Serbs". Belgrade. 1872. Translated from Serbian by VG Barsukov
Everywhere we see the spiritual signs of the past life of the Serbs on all this, first ours, space, and now alienated from us and now called primordially Chinese. But the efforts of the enemies of the Slavs are in vain, because we find clear and truthful evidence of Serbian living in a land and state that is now alien to us. This evidence is a huge number of Slavic place names on Chinese soil.
So let's start straight from Tibet with the names of the Tibetan rivers, taking away from them the Chinese ending "-he", which means "river". Then it turns out, for example, that the river Nana-he is purely our Nana, i.e. "mother". Further rivers: Chen, Bojan, Milovan, Ban, Chuyan, Ludin, Chedo, Danashi, Brama, Luyan, Dosela, Maken, Sila, Yarak, Milan.
From Tibet we will move further east and soon we will see a hill - Mount Yarlin - and the adjacent mountain ranges: Manka, Korchuga, Lishan.
Here are the cities: Polyacha, Kerun, Shiban, Atsa, Laertan, Sareb (Saleb-Alogonta), Mili, Dragor, Yadigol, Konchak, Polyacha.
Mount Luca.
Rivers Banmu, Malin, Zoban, Kuna, Banchana.
Bunch Hills, Sarbilin, Bachun, Bojan.
City of Bachur, Lanan.
Rivers Tsicha, Bago.
The hills of Sabie, Samba or Sarba, Srbi, Maro, Sila, Lagoon, Yanda, Syambra or Srbitsa, Omcha.
Rivucha, Runel, Yubela rivers.
The hills of Sochuila, Moba, Trouble, Chun, Bohun, Chaya.
Rivers Vanka, Kaki, Idar.
Rises of Chuila, Tevatan, Samcha.
Dodon river and Dodon mountain.
Koncha town.
Rivers Davoskaya Yama, Buycha, Manadin, Shar.
Mount Laco.
Segan lakes, Kamcha.
River Sebando or Srbando.
Tang and Bushal cities.
Mountains Latso, Chaklya, Barilan, Tarchun.
The towns of Buchindo and Mutich.
Lake Mutich.
Rivers Ukcha, Rudnik, Chulakan, Qiang.
Mountains: Rechen, Bigun, Kona, Zhenchila, Lumari, Kemidatan, Shuma, Temo, Konancha.
The rivers Nemda or Neda, Chado, Koleba, Chulakan.
The Mountain Appreciated the Village.
Begutan, Klasa rivers.
The cities of Samye, Chedan, Yara, Tonkar, Belbun, Sera or Serba, Nedanvar, Kambacha, Belam, Tala, Zhuncha.
The rivers Nemcha, Nagorchun, Conten, Zoryan, Omilin, Honten, Molin.
The cities of Tarden, Sanyarin, Yara, Chanbucha.
Rivers Pleme, Gorkintsa, Nelama, Litan, Simacha, Duiyo, Babushi.
Settlements: Ridak, Dragoyan, Tir, Danashi, Gora, Luch, Batan, Sisun, Dalia, Gusha, Voduni, Dati, Bohun, Yaado, Serbando, Borilan, Banbara, Osuchani, Mechoguni, Kusi, Benama, Lei, Zhelyun, Momin, Sekarchup, Samaka, Chungor, Sazhun, Nish, Chuvo, Puvanlun, Ladina, Zheya, Pinsha, Laiu, Chasun, Seka, Dulin, Yala, Chedan, Nimuchin, Lyova, Pelun, Neman, Ladichudo, Baya, Khragor, Khor, Cook, Seagulls, Shirahabu, Bayin, Hododa, Dubumri, Sekcha, Shaka, Ralo, Ingora, Muchi, Shirak, Chonogora, Tsumle, Baluna. Shibanora, Duminya, Sekar, Gucha, Oblaya, Serbi, Gusyo, Nesyarba, Togutsela.
Mountains Jagarla, Senba, Ladin (Serba), Lichu, Bechu, Momin.
Rivers Lechu, Sechu, Dugaila.
Dobula, Danguba, Bohun, Badi, Nado, Syabando or Srbando mountains.
Regions of Srbando, Chila, Butila.
Mountains Bidala, Batica.
The rivers Kokcha, Decha, Dechan, Sanchi, Zakucha, Budila.
Rivers Srbidun, Sunkala, Gola, Tsela, Gogala, Kerusha, Zhivakula, Senbi.
Bacha and Senbi mountains.
Rivers Tunla, Loba, Nenan, Senba or Serba, Larba, Java, Sechen, Boduni, Rimucha, Chuba, Samye, Rechan, Rechye, Dichan.
Peoples: Senbo, Sekar, Chasat, Syabri or Tsyabri-Tsyabritsi, Lamista, Andip, Anga, Ba.
Bachu region.
Baguan County.
Rivers Baishi, Baya, Baoxian, Baohan, Van, Vudin, Vidin, Bulan, Vuyan, Guchan.
Areas of Damomin, Daliga.
Dasia river.
Areas of Dido, Dichen, Icha, Ini, Kucha.
Regions and peoples of Lumin, Licha-path, Loman.
Lashui city.
Logushan river.
Mountains Luga Dolna and Malishar.
Districts Migun, Moban, Nin, Nogent.
Counties Nish, Sanvey, Samcha, Silishan, Tsichin, Sinho.
Sinzo-khu town.
Syabyan Valley.
Chan is the former capital of China.
Chesi is a pre-Christian people and state: now it is where the cities of Turpan, Chicha and Shishin are located.
The cities of Yechan and Yasan, Yanche, Yansha, Yaksha.
Rivers Bashui, Bayan, Bilye, Bincha, Nasha Bincha, Morava-Binche.
The towns of Bichet and Beauchamp.
Bogai and Bunay mountains.
The towns of Bugur, Lutai Slavsko, Wandy, Voyan, Wuvey.
Wulakhan region.
The cities of Bey Graoran, Gochan, Gichen or Dragichen, Guyan (a city in the region of Urat Guytsa).
Dai and Huma regions (ancient state).
Dachen city (Drachen-Drach-Dalai), Tola.
Rivers Jean and Man.
Coria region.
Kucha city.
Region and city of Laha.
Lishan river.
Mount Luoyang.
The cities of Lukchan, Ludmin, Lishan or Savarba.
Leke and Lelin mountains.
Region and city of Leixa.
Luchen river.
Lukchak, Lyamtsin, Mochuan cities.
Maishan river.
Mountains Miyushan, Minsha Menitsa, Mudri.
The city of Fly and Nami.
Rivers Naup, Ninchen, Ninhan.
Nochuan city.
The Pamir river.
Mountains Pishan, Pishinai, Pomir, Pulu, Serbik, Siyan.
The cities of Sila, Spnchen, Xinchen, Sia, Solin, Guardian, Surbesa, Sushen (cities of the ancient kingdom of Sushen and Sevushui).
Serlik River.
Xiangbishan city.
Mountains Taman, Temnich, Torbogatai, Teram, Eka.
Rivers Yaluga, Kamichak, Bukashan, Yan-shan.
Yang region.
Wuhuang city.
Mount Um.
District and city of Hama or Halmil.
Khangai region and city.
Insha and Nisha mountains.
The cities of Otan, Spichen, Hila, Syachu.
Region and city of Syati.
Mount Celichen.
The cities of Hum and Tsilyan.
Mountains Chudi, Tsvelen, Chadu, Cheshi (Cheshi - the people who disappeared, merged with the Chinese).
Region and city of Chichen.
Ball Region.
Mount Esil (fortress)
Lake Shara.
Rivers Suburkhan or Bunka, Khara, Boro, Dulosha.
Mountains Mogayta and Norin.
Rivers Serba, Tola, Bogdo.
Mountains Siboski, Shibet, Horbat.
Mount Yang.
Bodalin river.
Mount Jirin.
The city of Odola.
The rivers Sivan, Beduna, Usura and Klisura, Niman and Sirkha-Sirba, Shobarta (Saba), Tebe-Gvozden, Pech.
Mount Pecha.
River Tatan.
Mikan district.
River Ninka.
The cities of Sagistan, Dukan.
Rivers Chuo, Shikanya, Echin.
The city of Rovat.
Mountains Kitenen, Kititsi, Haydar, Munya, Ajor-nor.
Lakes Santas and Lepenac.
Rivers Lepsha, Teksha and Homgor.
Mount Yar or Yara.
Chui region and city.
Rivers of Oops. Gromba, Tisa or Tesa, Malgapli, Magla, Kosogor.
Mount Tamir.
Selby area or Serbi Milan.
Mount Katuna.
The rivers Belukha, Zvechan, Kemchik, Mogarak, Kezir, Mazar, Dunbali.
Mountains Gashun and Senchin, Surbuni, Puddle, Khora.
Mountains Ude, Mirchay.
River Gilan-nor, Kaituna, Nalikha, Mukota or Gogo, Sladan Tsuka, Talankhora.
Mount Lucius.
Serba river.
Mountains Bogana, Zarin, Kuchuna.
River Oroshani, Chubar, Onani, Sirbyo, Voyska, Belbog, Chidera and Chui, Otrar, Korsonya, Kocha, Pomir, Tomcha and Izha.
Mountains Tarcha, Motalan, Tortash, Mircea and Peshtan, Yarkan, Yarkap and Starcha, Kora.
Rivers Mayar, Sirba, Tsishtao, Sands, Boganyamur.
Lake Labacha.
Mountains Sarbi, Usu.
The Paya River.
The towns of Chiga, Roman, Brlucha.
Mount Borota-gol.
The rivers Tsarin-gol, Sokol, Cherluta, Chachan.
Mountains Trsich and Chuje, Kusher.
Toksav city.
Rivers Subesi (Srbesi), Nichan, Stalak, Baba, Gurba-dobi, Kuchukbai, Shchertin and God-shertin.
Lakes Dub-nor and Belagor.
The rivers Murui and Nitsa, Ulen, Muren, Umin, Duchin, Chatuy-chen, Tsicha, Minche, Grozdan, Bandidi, Grachum, Datkun, Khoman, Ropgankit, Koshuy, Zhelyan, Beila, Dubsu-nor, Nigorin.
Lakes Atan-gol, Tsisse, Shara, Cheluchan, Guyache, Echine.
Bolangir town.
The rivers Orakhon, Ezgran, Eder (Yadar), Izalut, Izisti (Esti, Bosut), Chabga, Yon, Tui, Boyir, Nachala and Sencha.
Lakes Tura, Eruta, Gonchin, Sute, Makhor, Tok, Mukhan, Bodarich, Seladin.
Mount Thor.
The rivers Duman, Durbot, Bunar, Dubkora, Bachun, Krushar, Doseli, Mogoi, Odad, Abacha, Yanta, Rukachem, Shibeta (Srbeta), Koda, Otun, Sibortay, Obachupor.
Lakes Sarabo, Sibe (Srbe).
Rivers Guardian, Gorbon, Gurdach, Yarkuta, Prichan, Debatay, Mahai, Yaman, Syancha, Leor, Shaka, Kemir, Oden, Fog, Zorka, Sele, Stozhar and Samisha, Yaka, Chama, Dikcha and Kalyuga, Shumar, Girin-hakon …
The city of Sirob.
The rivers Sirun and Yaron, Melun, Mor, Bojan and Senyul, Olemi, Mahora, Dun, Paren and Khata, Utun, Chana, Odi, Pristin, Ladura, Nisha, Camor, Tenke, Rad, Iber (Ibar), I teach, Kolar, Kuril and Arunaili,, Tunen, Yaruna, Nemir, Colin and Mulur, Barin, Shorun, Kurchetai, Shireta, Nijisi (Shishi-si), Lyakha, Lita, Kudin, Vila, etc.
All these place names are purely Serbian and must be preserved in history. It must be borne in mind that China and its huge empire have not yet been studied enough by us. All these place names were recorded by travelers. It is possible that some other tribes have survived on the territory of China that speak Slavic, albeit spoiled. Until now, this has not been paid attention to by Rus. Historians had no respect for the obvious toponymic evidence in China in favor of the Slavs.
We summarize all of the above:
1. Serbs (Slavs) in ancient times lived near the Himalayan mountains on a vast territory both to the west and to the east;
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