What is important to know about Orthodoxy, which believers do not know today

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Between article readers "Why is a religion so convenient for the authorities harmful?" an interesting dispute happened on KONTE. The direction of this dispute was set by someone "Light Warrior", who wrote : "Orthodoxy and Christianity have nothing in common with each other!" Orthodoxy was in Russia long before Christianity and before the baptism of Russia. Orthodoxy - from the words "Glorify Rule" (World of the Gods). And Christianity originated in the Middle East long before Jesus. John the Baptist forced the Jews to wash in the Jordan and be baptized. Jesus came to the Jews to tell them that they were living the wrong way and that they were worshiping the wrong God! That's why they soaked him!"

On this comment, another comment was written, and then it started!

Ivanych → Light warrior: in Greek, Orthodoxy is expressed by the word "orthodoxy". In Greek, this is not only "Orthodoxy", but also "righteousness". We must learn to think correctly! Only one who has a connection with God, who is Truth, can think correctly. A holistic approach is an important feature, a condition for right-thinking.

Perchik Perchik → Ivanovich: not righteousness, but righteousness! The very same word "orthodoxy" means - "direct opinion", "direct teaching", "orthodoxy." How do you think a Greek Christian can say about himself: "I am Orthodox"? Orthodox? Let's admit. How, then, can the expressions "Orthodox Jew" or "Orthodox Islam" be translated into Russian? "Orthodox Jew" or "Orthodox Islam" ?!

Anton Blagin → Ivanovich: in your opinion, it turns out that the present "Orthodoxy" is the religion of the sages? I did not notice such a quality among the majority of our believers.

Ivanych → Anton Blagin: “they didn’t notice,” because God's gift was again deliberately confused with scrambled eggs, because this is a characteristic of a phenomenon, not a person. Unlike you, I know many great Russian Orthodox scientists, philosophers, artists, poets, writers, musicians and even military leaders. All of them make up the great history and culture of our people. But I do not know a single "great" Russian pagan and barbarian. However, they are not known to you either …

Perchik Perchik → Ivanovich: why not? You can name many commanders of the Great Patriotic War - atheists, whom, of course, you cannot call barbarians (for what reason?), But it is quite possible to call them Orthodox, but not in the Christian sense. Since real Orthodoxy is not a religion! Rather, a philosophical doctrine, worldview. Like Confucianism.

Ivanych → Perchik Perchikc: "Orthodoxy" is "tracing paper", that is, the most accurate translation of the Greek word "ὀρθοδοξία" (orthodoxy). The word "orthodoxy" consists of two parts: "ὀρθός" (orthos) - "correct, right"And" δόξα "(doxa), which literally means" opinion, judgment, teaching ", although it can also be translated as" glory, honor".

The word "orthodoxy" entered the Christian lexicon in the era of the Ecumenical Councils and was used by the Church Fathers as the antonym of various heretical teachings - "heterodox" (literally translated - "different opinions, judgments"). The word "Orthodoxy" also has two roots. The root of "rights" does not raise questions, its unambiguous semantics is "correct, true." The second part - "glory" - has the same root as the word "glory", one of the meanings of which is also "opinion, judgment, teaching", for example: "there is a bad name about these people." Thus, the phrase "Orthodox Christianity" means "correct Christian teaching." Source: pravoslavie.ru/77663.html

It seems that you do not look like a victim of the Bologna education system, but for some reason you reason the same way … Religion (from lat.religio - "piety, piety, shrine, object of worship") - worldview and attitude, as well as the corresponding behavior and specific actions (cult), which are based on the belief in the existence of (one or more) gods, "sacred", i.e. some kind of supernatural."

Thus, any religion has five main characteristics:

1) worldview;

2) attitude;

3) appropriate behavior;

4) specific actions (cult);

5) belief in the existence of gods (one or more) and the supernatural ("sacred") - belief, which is the basis of the first four signs.

Perchik Perchik → Ivanych: words "glory"and "opinion" or "doctrine" and "judgment" are completely different in meaning and are not synonymous! To glorify anything, to glorify - absolutely not equal in meaning- "have an opinion about something." Anyway you you can notcorrectly translate into Russian the expressions "orthodox Islam", "orthodox Judaism" or the same "orthodox communism".

Ivanych → Perchik Perchik: that is why for me there are such concepts as standard, reference point, truth, dogma. Only by trying to follow them rigorously can one build logic, and other methods of thinking are a "quagmire" of continuous relativism, fraught with a very widespread diagnosis …

Perchik Perchik → Ivanych: This is sophistry! There is a problem with the translation, isn't it? Is there something wrong with your reporting point?

Ivanych → Perchik: where did you get the idea that I decided to shine here with a philological "talent"? The first translation is from a professor at MGIMO, and the second is from the official Orthodox website, to which I have provided a link …

Perchik Perchik → Ivanovich: if you are a reasonable person, you should at least think about the reliability of your sources. With the advent of Christianity, the Russian language acquired several words of foreign origin of religious and ecclesiastical content: church, gospels, synod, catholic, etc. But the word "orthodoxy" I have not acquired the Russian language. This is only a Russian word! Are you saying that the Russians did not know him before the arrival of Christianity ?! Didn't the Slavs have to praise the gods before? Didn't the Slavs consider their gods to be correct? Is it right was it strange for a Slav to praise God?

I am trying to hint to you that there is nothing illogical in the fact that Orthodoxy is by no means a curiosity for a pre-Christian Slav!

A Muslim can say about himself - "I am an orthodox"! A Jew can say so! A Christian can say so! But a Muslim cannot say - "I am an Orthodox Muslim." A Jew cannot either! BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE SAME!

Ivanych → Perchik Perchik: unlike you, as I have already shown, my sources are fundamental, i.e. underlying a specific worldview. How is it that attempts to give a different meaning to words, or their interpretation, contradict what I have said? Therefore, I repeat, for me Russian = Orthodox. “Russian” is the only nationality that is indicated by an adjective. All other nationalities answer the question "who?": German, English, French. And only Russian is "what". Because Russianness is a quality of the human Soul. Russian is an adjective. And the Russian person is always attached to God. The one who is attached to God is the Russian. (N. Berdyaev)

Perchik Perchik → Ivanych: "Russian people are Orthodox". I can agree. All Russian material culture testifies to this. Only Christianity has nothing to do with it! Christianity was first of all imposed on the princely elite! The peasantry, in spite of Christianity imposed from above, remained Orthodox! Maslenitsa, carols, Christmastide are Orthodox holidays. Even Christmas (December 25) falls on the beginning of the rise of the Sun above the horizon. Christmas is a pagan holiday.

Anton Blagin: I will add to this: earlier in Russia, the Slavs celebrated a holiday on December 25 "Christmas of the Sun", and after the reform of Peter I, which he arranged 317 years ago, cutting off 5508 years from the Slavic calendar, they began to celebrate December 25 "The Nativity of Christ", whom the Jews circumcised on the 8th day and made the New God for the Slavs (Gottth) exactly by January 1. (Count! 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 December + 1 January = on the eighth day!).

By the way, the congratulation "Happy New Year!" Was probably invented by Peter I himself, who put in this phrase a mockery of the Slavs - "Happy New God!" The word "Year" that appeared in the Russian language is a remake, formed from the German word "Gott" (God) or the English word "God" (God).

As for the origin of the word ORTHODOXY and its true meaning, I support the point of view of the reader with the nickname "Light Warrior", who said that "Orthodoxy was in Russia long before Christianity and the baptism of Russia", and the point of view of "Perchik Perchik", who said that “orthodox” and “Orthodox” are not the same thing! "Orthodoxy" did not acquire the Russian language. This is only a Russian word!"

It really consists of two roots "right" and "praise", the meaning of which seems to be extremely clear. But this meaning is fully revealed only if we turn our attention to the ancient Slavic tradition - to celebrate the winter holiday of the Sun on December 25 in the Russian North ("Christmas of Kolyada").

Reader Perchik Perchik wrote above: "Christmas falls on the beginning of the rise of the Sun over the horizon." I will clarify: our distant ancestors celebrated the Christmas of the Sun on the third day after the onset of the shortest day of the year, which falls annually on December 22. On this day in the Arctic (beyond the line of the Arctic Circle) the old, autumn-winter Sun, which had its own name among the ancient Slavs - Horse or Horst. And on December 25, three days later, a new Sun was born, the Sun-baby, to which the Slavs gave the name - Kolyada … He was called a baby because this "reborn" Sun gave light, but there was still little heat coming from it. And the spring Sun, which had already gained strength, which awakened nature after hibernation, was christened by the ancient Slavs Yaril … Ardent means strong.

So, the Slavs in ancient times used three different names for the Sun during the year, indicating its "different age" and different strength:

Here it is - the most ancient "pagan faith" of the Slavs! And if we translate into modern Russian the ancient Slavic word "yazytsy" (which means "peoples"), then the negative meaning introduced into the mass consciousness by Christian priests will completely disappear from the phrase "pagan faith", for we will get the result - "popular faith" Slavs! What's wrong with that?

Folk - among other things means - simple in meaning.

Whom praised our distant Orthodox ancestors, what kind of God?

Of course, they glorified the Sun, without the warmth and light of which there would be no life on Earth! In winter, with the onset of cold weather, you understand this especially clearly, especially if the central heating is turned off in the house!

On December 25, on the Christmas of the Sun, in Russia there was a tradition to make a large fire imitating the fire of the Sun, and arrange a round dance around it - movement in a circle.

This movement around the fire was necessarily arranged, as they say now, "clockwise". That is, the people made a "right rotation" around the fire. This was right-glory!

Why did our ancestors choose this direction of movement around the fire? And why not the opposite?

The explanation for this is also simple.

If you live in the Northern Hemisphere of the Earth, in Russia or another European country, or in England, or in North America, observe for yourself how the Sun moves across the sky. In the Northern Hemisphere of the Earth, the visible movement of the Sun across the sky occurs from left to right, and in the Southern Hemisphere of the Earth - in the opposite direction, from right to left. This is due to celestial mechanics, which this figure below explains. In fact, this planet Earth revolves around the Sun, moreover, counterclockwise, and since we do not feel the movement of our planet, it seems to us that this Sun is moving relative to the Earth.

In the summer, when the summer solstice begins after June 22, and the Polar Day begins behind the line of the Northern Polar Circle, the inhabitants of the Arctic have the opportunity to observe a unique phenomenon - the Sun does not go over the horizon all day long and simply walks across the sky according to the principle of a round dance. At the same time, it is clearly visible that it moves from left to right.

To repeat this movement of the Sun, moving in a round dance around the festive fire, was in the tradition of the ancient Slavs. As I said, this was the traditional ORTHODOXY. And this very direction of movement of people in a round dance was called POLON, which means "according to the Sun".

The ancient Slavs even had a sign, a symbol identical to the word PASSIONATE, here it is:

This is not a swastika! This is Posolon! This sign symbolizes rotation and indicates the direction of rotation - clockwise.

The sign POLON and ORTHODOXE had an inextricable semantic connection with each other!

All this was among our people in ancient times, but over the centuries it was all perverted by the biblical "enemies of the human race"!

The most recent perversion of RUSSIAN ORTHODOXY tried to make nazis, who at the beginning of the twentieth century, out of meanness and deceit, decided to ride this "Aryan", Nordic theme in order to further blacken our past.

Take a look at these two historical photographs. This is Berlin, 1936, the stadium hosting the Olimi Games. The decoration of the sports festival was the "swastika procession" around the traditional "Aryan" bonfire, which has not yet been lit in the photo. Note which way the Nazis are marching.

To the left! Against the movement of the Sun!

This is LEVOSLAVY, alien to the ancient Slavic, so-called "Aryan" culture! In other words, it is perversion Aryan cult!

Why this was done, I told in a separate article: "Nazism was generated by the Jews, who called themselves" Aryans "to disguise themselves!"

This I told about the newest, most famous case of perversion of RUSSIAN ORTHODOXY, and earlier a similar perversion of the "pagan faith" was done by the Christianizers of Russia.

Not only that, these Christianizers of Russia began to replace the ancient Slavic holidays with church Judeo-Christian holidays, such as the holiday "Christmas of the Sun" they changed to "The Nativity of Christ", so they are still within the framework fake "Christianity" have changed ORTHODOXY for LEVOSLAVIA!

Moreover, their "institution of God" is still called in Russia "Russian Orthodox Church ", in spite of the tradition of LEVOSLAVIA, which has already been established over the centuries!

How was the substitution of "popular Slavic faith" made for pseudo-Christian, said the famous Soviet and Russian philologist, semiotics, historian of language and culture Boris Andreevich Uspensky.

According to the modern historian of the Church, Christianity has adopted and made many forms of "pagan religion" its own, because the whole idea of Christianity is not to replace all forms in this world with new ones, but to fill them with new … content!

"Baptism with water, a religious meal, anointing with oil - all these fundamental religious acts the Church did not invent, did not create, all of them were already in the religious everyday life of mankind. The Church turned many forms of religion that were common for" paganism "to serve Christianity.

As pagans celebrated the birth of the invincible Sun on December 25, so Christians also timed the celebration of the Nativity of Christ on this day, which taught people to worship the "Sun of Truth". The same date became the date of the "Epiphany". The church cult of the unmercenaries is known to have much in common with the pagan cult of the Dioscuri.

Speaking about the adaptation of Christian holidays to pagan ones, it can be indicated further that the holiday The beheading of John the Baptist on August 29, established by the Alexandrian Church in opposition to the festivities alexandrian new year.

Holidays Nativity of the Virgin, September 8, and the Conception of the Virgin, January 12, were established in Asia as opposed to the Olympic Games.

Celebration Transfiguration of the Lord, August 6, - of Armenian-Cappadocian origin, established in Armenia as opposed to the pagan feast of Ross.

Archangel Michael's Day, November 8, - of Alexandrian origin, replaced the most ancient feast of the Baptism of the Lord, established by the Egyptian Church in contrast to the celebrations in honor of the Egyptian goddess.

Thus, the Church, as it were, gave Christian coverage to popular festivals, of course, while certain pagan rituals had to be preserved, which, however, received a new content, rethought in terms of Christian ideas.

And in exactly the same way the Churches were placed in the place of "pagan temples", and the pagan priests, as Christianity spread, became (were replaced) by Christian priests.

The practice of "churching paganism", dating back, as we have seen, to the first centuries of Christianity, was preserved in the Byzantine, and then in the Russian Church. Accordingly, a number of rituals, both general and local, and in general, a number of aspects of cult behavior reveals in Christianity an undoubted pagan origin … " A source.

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The practice of "churching paganism", as history has shown, boiled down among Christianizers to the fact that they perverted all popular Slavic traditions and beliefs, filled them not with the true (as they convinced everyone), but with an unnatural (opposite) meaning.

And the most vivid example of this perversions popular ("pagan") beliefs - the change of ORTHODOXY to LEVOSLAVIA!

Here is a story that is included in many encyclopedias.

On August 12, 1479, the Moscow Metropolitan Gerontius consecrated the main cathedral of the Russian Church - the Assumption Cathedral in Moscow. During its consecration, the Metropolitan performed a procession anti-saline, that is, he led the people around the cathedral against the movement of the sun.

(In 1936, the Nazis pretending to be "Aryans" also walked at the stadium in Berlin! - A. B.'s commentary)

When Grand Duke Ivan III found out about this, he was displeased with this and was angry with the Metropolitan. Naturally, a dispute began between the prince and the metropolitan. To resolve the dispute, the scribal priests began to look for an entry in their books, how to make movement correctly during worshiphowever, they found nothing in them. Then the archimandrites and abbots came out in defense of the metropolitan. One abbot, justifying the metropolitan, said that he saw the procession of the cross against the salt on Mount Athos in Greece.

The prince, to support his opinion, called the Archbishop of Rostov Vassian and Archimandrite of the Chudov Monastery Gennady, for both were Russian origin … In contrast to their opinion, Metropolitan Gerontius cited the fact that the deacon is "censing" around the throne "against the Sun". The archbishop and archimandrite invited by Prince Ivan III, in support of their point of view, said the following: "The righteous sun is Christ, come to death, and hell is the bond, and the souls of freedom, and for that, for that sake, they come out on Easter, they also represent Matins."

So, with the support of two priests, the prince remained unconvinced and forbade Metropolitan Gennady to consecrate the newly built churches, of which there were quite a lot in Moscow by that time.

After the invasion of Akhmat in 1480, the religious dispute was renewed in 1481, on July 22. There were only two people on the side of the Grand Duke: Archbishop Joasaph of Rostov (Vassian had already died) and Archimandrite Gennady. All the rest were on the side of the metropolitan.

The prince stubbornly stood his ground, which is why the metropolitan left for the Simonov monastery and announced to the prince that he would completely leave the metropolitan see if the prince did not submit …

Further, according to the narration given in the encyclopedia, “Prince Ivan III resigned himself, sent his son to the metropolitan with a request to return to his throne. The metropolitan did not return. Then the prince himself went to the metropolitan, declared himself guilty of everything, promised to obey the metropolitan in everything, as for the direction of movement, he gave it to the will of the metropolitan, as he ordered and as it was in the old days …"

In the middle of the 17th century, the church reform undertaken by Patriarch Nikon affected all churches in Russia and unified all rituals "according to Greek patterns." However, Nikon's innovations were not accepted by a part of the Russian people. There was a schism in the Church. Those who continued to honor the old Russian ("pagan" or "Aryan") traditions and walk during the "processions of the cross" in the direction of the Sun ("salting") and stayed this way Russian Orthodox, those began to be called "Old Believers". And the "new believers" began to obediently follow the priests during the "processions of the cross" against the movement of the sun, that is, counterclockwise, and thus became … Orthodox Christians.

Why walk against the sun? Who are they that way glorify? - believers, fooled by the Judeo-Christian priests, no longer understand, but, as they say, it is said to walk, so they follow them … without knowing why!

What is valuable for us, Slavs, a new supposedly "Christian" tradition, about which not a word is said in the Christian Gospels?

Obviously, it is "valuable" only because our people are now following the lead of the Jewish priests, who, in order to deceive the believers, called themselves "followers of Christ the Savior" and dressed in the uniforms they had invented, while in their souls they are haters of everything Russian, Slaviclike the same Kirill Gundyaev, the current head of the ROC, who said in 2012:

And they came. And everything that could be perverted was perverted!

September 13, 2017 Murmansk. Anton Blagin

Comments:

Gordon Shumway: if Orthodoxy was necessary to fool everyone, then why crucified our Lord Jesus Christ? Why did they kill all the Apostles and persecute Christians?.. Is it possible, so to speak, to better consolidate this religion?

AntonBlagin → Gordon Shumway: your logic of thinking is lame, like most people are believers, but do not think:

1. For believers in Christ - the Savior is not the Lord, but a friend! He said it himself!

2. Christ was crucified not in order to fool everyone with Orthodoxy and with Christianity in general, you have some kind of delusional "logical connection" turned out, and Christ was crucified because, when he came to the Jews, he did the same thing as I do today - exposed the lies of the Jews (Jews)! That he did not do this and did not confuse the minds of the Jews, the Savior and crucified!

3. When, after the execution of Christ, spontaneous communities of followers of the Savior began to form, the Roman authorities began to think about how to neutralize all these spontaneous opposition movements. They remembered the political principle: "When any movement, party or doctrine cannot be defeated, it must be led!" Then the Roman rulers created "state Christianity", supporting those in power and claiming that "all power is from God!"

Then this "state Christianity" was taken into service by the rulers of many other countries and peoples, including the rulers of Russia. Continued in the article "Why is a religion so convenient for the authorities harmful?"