Babi Yar is a Western Ukrainian crime, not a German one, because most of the punishers are Western Ukrainians

2024 Author: Seth Attwood | [email protected]. Last modified: 2023-12-16 15:55

September 29 is the day of memory of the tragedy of Babi Yar. And, as a rule, it is said that this is a crime of "Germans" or "Nazis", without national reference.

In fact, Babi Yar is a Western Ukrainian crime, not a German one !!! Most of the Ukrainian punishers were there, which their descendants are proud of in public statements. But, the "Ukrainian trace" is erased from history, and everything falls on the Germans

Here's a recent example. Raisa Maistrenko, a Jewess who miraculously escaped from being shot or buried alive, says in the middle of a video clip on the website of Radio Liberty (for everyone except Russians) that the Jews were driven to the ravine by "the Germans and the POLICE", and in the credits the editors wrote with a hyphen policemen ". But the Germans were not policemen. The police were recruited from the local population. The woman mentions them separately from the Germans through the "I" alliance. Germans " andpolicemen "the woman mentions at the time 1:33 (or -1: 17 from the end of the video):

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Therefore, I want to note that Khatyn and Babi Yar are not German crimes, but Ukrainian ones. And to be more precise, Western Ukrainian ones. The Germans, of course, are involved, but to a lesser extent. The composition of the executioners consisted mainly of Western Ukrainians. Modern Germans do not heroize their executioners of those times, they renounced them, and Western Ukrainians, on the contrary, “puff up” with their heroes of those years (they are proud of them). The Germans do not name the participants in the Sonderkommando streets in Berlin

This is a photo from Lvov (Western Ukraine) in 2012 on the day of the celebration of the anniversary of the formation of the SS "Galicia" division, where Ukrainian Nazis marched 2 years before the attacks on Kiev, Odessa and Donbass. A source

For the Germans, punitive operations were disgusting work, but "necessary". It is an honor to fight at the front with an armed enemy, and not with unarmed children and women in the rear. And for Western Ukrainians it is a favorite pastime. No danger to life + pleasure + stable earnings. Therefore, the Germans dumped this occupation on the Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Crimean Bandero Tartars, etc

Israeli citizen Mikhail Sidko, presented on Savik Shuster's talk show as the last surviving witness of the Babi Yar tragedy, emphasizes that in Babi Yar, in front of his eyes, his sister, brother and mother were killed by a policeman with Western Ukraine … And, if Bert's mother was killed in the "traditional" way - by a shot, then his 3-year-old sister Klara and brother Volodya, a 4-month-old infant, were crushed by the foot of a Western Ukrainian, like cockroaches.

Western Ukrainians stood out from the rest of Kiev Ukrainians by a specific dialect of the Ukrainian language. I quote:

Klara saw me, raised her hands: Misha, I want to use my hands. She ran to us. The policeman catches up with her - bang on the head from above, she fell. He heeled her bam on her chest - crushed! Mom saw it - fainted. The child fell out. The child screams - and he fits this child too - with a boot! And he shot my mother, in front of my eyes

Maybe due to the fact that I did not know German, but I have only the language in my memory Ukrainian Zapadensky.

All two and a half years that I lived in occupied Kiev, I was not so afraid of the Germans as I was afraid of the police

Below is a video posted by the Jew Savik Shuster himself on his own video channel. The quoted fragment about the fact that the policemen are precisely the Western Ukrainians begins at 16:45:

As you can see, not Putin, not Kiselev, and, even, not a Muscovite, but a real Kiev Jew by his mother, Ukrainian by his father, not on Russian "lying" television, but on the Ukrainian most popular talk show, clearly separates Ukrainians and Western Ukrainians. The punishers are precisely the Westerners. The Germans had to drag them from Western Ukraine to Kiev (more than 500 km). As it is now.

It is worth noting that an ethnic German, their neighbor, who worked as a translator for the German commandant's office, saved two Jewish brothers, claiming that they were Ukrainians. And the Ukrainian janitor handed them over to the Gestapo twice.

The same person gave interviews even earlier - in 2014. I quote:

If a child cries, the Germans did not touch the child, and the policemen first beat the child for not crying, and then for crying. One could cry from a German, but not a policeman.

You can hear this in the 22nd minute of the video:

"Mikhail Sidko: the last witness of Babi Yar"

Even more interesting is the dialogue between the journalist Mikhail Eidelman and Mikhail Sidko (both live in Israel) at the end of the film about modern events in Ukraine shortly after the Euromaidan:

-How can you explain that now (2014) is proud not of its heroes, but of its bastards?

-Those who shout "Bandera Hero" are the grandchildren of the Banderaites of those times who robbed their neighbors and killed everyone in a row, and the new generation was brought up on the idea that Jews, communists and Muscovites should be killed.

In 2010, I spoke at the Conference in Kiev, my speech was interrupted by Tyagnibok's Bandera supporters. They did not allow the meeting to be held as it should be, but I said my word that a cohort of animals such as Bandera and his pupils must be destroyed.

In addition to Jewish witnesses, there are a number of non-Jewish witnesses who witnessed this tragedy. Anna Ivanovna Bebikh (nee Khutorskaya) also notices this moment - there were significantly more policemen than Germans, and the policemen spoke the Western Ukrainian dialect. See her testimony about this from the 20th to 23rd minutes:

Babi Yar. Last witnesses

Not Putin or Kiselev, but the Israeli ambassador to Russia, Jewish and Israeli Dorit Golender, stated publicly that during the Holocaust, Bandera in Western Ukraine killed 96 members of her husband's family:

How many children are among them? More than half, most likely, because Jewish families, especially in those days, traditionally have many children. How did Bandera kill 50 children? Thrown into the fire? Smashing heads on rocks? Just hung in the trees? But they hardly spent bullets on them. Or did they shoot several children tightly together with one bullet? Who knows, tell me.

In the magnificent poem by Natella Boltyanskaya "Babi Yar", which is often performed on the radio, when the tragedy of Babi Yar and the Holocaust in general are mentioned, only Germans are also mentioned:

What are you crying, you can't see - Their language is like Yiddish,

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Yiddish is the language of German and later just European Jews. A mixture of Hebrew and German. But, in fact, it would be correct to write "their language is similar to Russian".

The official point of view of the State of Israel is published in the Electronic Jewish Encyclopedia, on which the most authoritative historians of Israel and other universities have worked. Here's what it says about the participation of Germans and Ukrainians:

This is an important point. Even the Israelis emphasize that it was from Western Ukraine that the punishers had to be brought to Kiev. There were few local Kiev punishers. And in order to organize EuroMaidan, now the Americans had to drag Western Ukrainians to Kiev. History repeats itself.

In one of the issues of the newspaper "Ukrainian Word" for October 1941, there was an article in which it was said: "The Jews who still exist in Kiev are disguised as different nationalities - Greeks, Armenians, Ukrainians, Russians, pay hundreds of thousands for the relevant documents. But Ukraine has many real patriotswho dream as soon as possible to cleanse their lives, their villages, dense forests and beautiful cities from partisans, instigators of Jews and red commissars. These patriots every day come to a small house on Shevchenko Boulevard (Gestapo) and tell about the enemies "…

And here is the mention of the now widespread term "Ukrainian patriots". The descendants of informers on Jews in the small house of the Gestapo are now knocking on the Russians on the big house of the SBU.

The tragedy of Babi Yar attracts close attention of anti-Semitic circles in Ukraine. So, in 1994–97. in the newspaper "Vecherny Kiev" periodically there were articles in which it was proved that nobody was shot at Babi Yar and that "the whole story was invented by the Jews."

In 2005-2006 in Ukraine, the book "The Truth About Babi Yar" was widely distributed, which also denied the events of 1941.

And now the Russians in Donbass are "inventing" that they are being bombed by modern Ukrainian patriots. Here is an example of how ukropresident Poroshenko denies the obvious

Blatant lie of Poroshenko and Avakov in the face of a Ukrainian woman from Slavyansk

The main drawback of the Israeli encyclopedic article is that the ratio of German and Western Ukrainian punishers is not indicated. Who is more after all? Western Ukrainians themselves answer this question.

In 2001, during a training exercise, the Ukrainians shot down a Russian plane flying from Israel. I then watched some kind of TV show where this tragedy was discussed. One of the participants expressed the version that the Ukrainians shot down the plane on purpose, because they hate both Muscovites and Jews. And then a good chance turned up. A Russian plane from Israel flies near the Ukrainian air defense exercise zone. You can take revenge on the Jewish mosques for the defeat of the Banderaites and the elimination of Stepan Bendera in Germany. To prove his version, he showed a video, where at a meeting of some city council in western Ukraine, a man from the podium said that he was proud that his fellow countrymen had killed many Jews half a century ago. I could not believe my eyes and ears. This was said by a person not at a meeting of some nationalists, but at an ordinary meeting of the city council. And I was also surprised that those present accepted his speech normally. This is more important than the performance itself.

What kind of city it was, what year it was, who performed, I certainly don't remember. I remember just watching this program in 2001-2002. In connection with the new events in Ukraine, this story came to mind. I decided to look on YouTube for a video of this performance. Found nothing. But I found a mention of either the same story, or a similar one here

So, this confession was made in the city of Rivne. Someone V. Shkuryatyuk stated. A certain Lydia Svadeva told about this event in the newspaper "Kievsky Vestnik".

The author of the article quotes the site "Jewish Kiev" but there is no quotation at the indicated link. Apparently, the Jewish editors of that site removed the bad statements about Bandera from their site after the Maidan. No matter what happens.

Defenders of Bendera claim that this whole story is invented, and Lydia Wedding does not exist in nature. But, I easily found her mentions on the Internet and even a form to contact her. Here she is. I wrote her a letter, waiting for an answer.

But on Facebook there is a profile of a certain Viktor Shkuryatyuk from Rovno, most likely this is our proud hero. He has his own page and personal account

Studied Romano-Germanic Philology at Lviv University of the Name of Ivan Franko Visited from 1977 to 1982

Lives in Rivne

Email the address

Here are some of his photographs:

This is he with the flag of the Crimean banderoatras. At the top right, he is in a collective photo with the hero of the cauldrons, Dmitry Korchinsky. This is a particularly valuable fruit, seriously ill with schizophrenia:

Not only their dillies are proud of Bandera crimes, but also … Jews. These are not ordinary Jews, but self-hating Jews.

On the Ukrokanal of the Russophobe Gordon, the most famous modern Israeli poet Igor Guberman, a Russophobe and a bander-lover, that is, a typical "Jew Bandera" also admits that 9 out of 10 punishers in German concentration camps are Ukrainians, and he likes it:

It is curious how my acquaintance from Kiev reacted to this statement by Dorit Golender in the commentary to this article:

There are good articles - I read them and take notes. There are Ukrainianophobic articles - I read and draw conclusions: operate with facts that are distorted and perverted, and present them to the reader as true - this can be attributed to the section of nonsense (in the context of this article).

* As for "Common Sense" - I take any information for reality, IF this information is written by a person who in his right mind can reason without emotion.

But Leo wants to show in this article; Ukrainians, what bastards you are! Russians, what a fine fellow you are! Jews, how unlucky you are with the Ukrainians! The wrong approach to this question is emotional !!!

As you can see, I, Lev Khudoy, are to blame for the fact that the Bandera supporters killed 96 relatives of the Israeli ambassador to Russia. And the fact that the Israeli poet-Soviet dissident Igor Guberman, a Russophobe and a parcel lover, publicly admits that 9 out of 10 punishers are Ukrainians, it is also my fault, Lev Khudoy.

Here is Maximilian's page in VK

On his page there is a fake photo where, allegedly, in Tel Aviv, on a skyscraper, a trident and an inscription in Hebrew "Together to the end" are shining.

The skyscrapers in Tel Aaviv may have Soviet symbols, but not Ukrainian ones. Israel celebrates the Victory Day of the Red Army, not the day of the UPA. In Israel, the marches of the Great Patriotic War veterans are officially held, accompanied by the military band of the Israeli army, and not the marches of the OUN-UPA veterans.

By the way, real windows glow white, and they portrayed a trident in yellow color.

I asked Maximilian to provide proof that this inscription existed by citing the original source. And he explained that this could not be, because for the Jews, Bandera is a greater enemy than Hitler. Quoting my answer:

Here is the real attitude officialIsrael to Bandera represented by the ambassador of the State of Israel:

How many children are among them? More than half, most likely, because Jewish families, especially in those days, traditionally have many children. How did Bandera kill 50 children? Thrown into the fire? Smashing heads on rocks? Just hung in the trees? But they hardly spent bullets on them. Or did they shoot several children tightly together with one bullet?

Maximilian Edelman replied to Leo

Leo, Where are the facts? Where are the sources? Where are the documents? Where are the motives? Where is the indirect confirmation? Where are the courts? Where? Is it difficult to come to the studio, well, at least with something? It's not even a priori. Why doesn't she come to Ukraine and talk about it? I don't believe a single word that was said in the studio. And even more so to show on the channel where Soloviev and Kiselev work. Nobody in Ukraine will believe this information, and neither Jews nor Ukrainians will support it.

Let's discuss Maximilian's answer point by point:

Leo, Where are the facts? Where are the sources? Where are the documents?

What have the facts to do with it? I was talking about officialIsrael's attitude to Ukraine represented by officialof an official of the State of Israel on live television.

Imagine the level of Maximilian's chutzpah, if it was I who asked him to provide proof that, allegedly, there was a pro-Ukrainian inscription on a skyscraper in Israel.

Instead of answering my request for the primary source, he went from defense to offensive. Instead of answering, he accuses a high-ranking official of the sovereign state of Israel of lying !!! Have you seen the big chutzpu?

Is it difficult to come to the studio, well, at least with something?

Imagine the level of chutzpanist requirements! Is the Israeli ambassador obliged to come to television as to the Supreme Court with a suitcase of evidence in order to tell a personal testimony about his family? Was she being interrogated? Look at him, a young green Bandera boy, absolutely no one, blames an adult, accomplished woman who holds the post of ambassador of one very significant world nuclear power to another. Not the Ambassador of Botswana to Honduras, but the Ambassador of Israel to Russia!

Why doesn't she come to Ukraine and talk about it?

Yesterday the President of Israel said the same in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. So what? What difference does it make in which country the Israeli ambassador speaks. It is important WHO says and WHAT says.

After a few days of correspondence in that topic, he did admit that it was a photo fake of his girlfriend:

This photoshop was done by my friend from Israel. She moved there in 1999. She came to Ukraine when there was the Revolution, to support her relatives (they did not leave for Israel). So she decided to support Ukraine in this way. In the coat of arms of Ukraine, she specifically used the Star of David, because she always considered herself Ukrainian / Jewish. She didn't spit in the well … unlike some …

By the way, if we talk about photoshop banderopees, do not ignore this topic:

Bandero Tatar bestial lies on the air of the teleconference "Ukraine - Crimea"

Finally, a video about non-tender:

Bandera crowd galloped to punish the PEACEFUL population. And they galloped away from the militia:

Bandera rode in a crowd to punish the PEACEFUL population, and galloped away from the militia

Some self-hating Jews have forgiven the Holocaust for the Banderas. Don't believe me? Listen to a snippet of the broadcast from Israel Radio:

Jews forgave the Holocaust to Banderas. Chutzpah vice versa

The neo-Bandera tried to hang the new Holocaust on the Russians, but the Jews themselves, who were chilled out in BanderaSMI, published a refutation.

Putin's bloody Rusnya will once again Holocaust Jews in occupied Luhansk! There are victims! The Jewess was killed with bast shoes Lesya Lapteva! And the whole world is silent! Anatoly Shariy Is silent

It is strange that very few people know about this. Russian propaganda is not working. The fake about the crucified Boy, shown on Russian TV by BanderaSMI, is repeated every day for the third year. This is despite the fact that it was told by Galina Pyshnyak, a Western Ukrainian who moved to live in Donbass and fled from shelling to Russia. BanderaSMI, at the same time, is not accused of her, who created this fake, but the Russian correspondent who interviewed.

A source

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